President Reagan's Legacy

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I do not doubt that. But how much experience do you have dealing with cocaine, or heroin, or meth addicts whose addiction is NOT illegal?

How do you know that the problems are not, at least in some part, due to the fact that the drugs are illegal?

Would you discount the experience of someone who has an extensive experience of dealing with addicts in a setting where those drugs are legal? Or is your experience somehow more valid than theirs?

 

Hi Bill Huffman: Why is meth so bad in its effects? The area where I live is apparently inundated with the stuff (worst statistics on meth use and manufacture in the state). I know little about it. Can you give me some more information? Thx. Janko

 

Hi Uncle, I was mostly curious and wanted to coax someone that knows better (like Bruce) into correcting me. The few meth heads that I've ever meet just seemed to be totally anti-social. The few heroine addicts seemed almost as anti-social in conduct but seemed to have remorse and weren't as violent. The sample size in my experience is so small though that I can't really trust it to tell me too much. We can both hope that someone with better experience can enlighten us.

 

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Oxycontin is a very powerful prescription painkiller that is usually given to people with terminal cancer or some other condition associated with chronic pain. The pills have a special coating that time-releases the drug. On the street, the junkies crush the pills, thus destroying the time-release effect, and snort the resulting powder.

We're having an almost epidemic of pharmacy robberies, since they are the only source of the drug.

 

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Are you serious?

Right now, junkies have to skulk around & obtain their drugs under constant threat of arrest & imprisonment, and the drug problem is still rampant. Do you honestly think things would improve if you could cop some heroin at the corner 7-11?

 

Meth, unlike other drugs like heroin and cocaine, is totally synthetic. If you ever saw how it was made, any thoughts of trying it would go right out the window.

Meth screws up the part of the central nervous system that produces dopamine. Long-term use leads to paranoia, suicidal/homicidal thoughts, and psychotic episodes. A meth user in a rage acts much like someone on PCP, but they lack the superhuman strength of the PCP user.

Hardcore meth users get "crank bugs", which are open sores in their arms. The meth head believes that bugs are crawling on his skin, and scratches his arms to the point that he literally digs holes in his arms.

Yeah, we should put this stuff next to the Marlboros at the corner store.

Fortunately, meth hasn't caught on in a big way that much in the Northeast. However, it's supposedly now in the Tennessee area and making its way towards us.

 

Temporal disconnect.

 

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If the drug problem is rampant then what purpose is being served by the laws?

What of when "drugs" were legal? They were far less of a problem than was alcohol.

 

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Keeping it in check. Legalize drugs, and the flood gates open.

Back when it was legal, China had such a problem with opium that they decreed that anyone using the drug after a certain date would be executed. You call that far less of a problem? Besides, those were the days before crack, meth, oxys, etc.

I really think you don't comprehend how much drugs messes people up. As I stated before, addicts who use heroin, crack, meth, and oxys are complete & total wastes. They do nothing for society except commit crime and drain services. Job security for me, if nothing else.

 

Thanks for the post on meth, Bruce. I've seen a number of people with arms like that around here. I could expatiate on the behaviour I've seen, but that's depressing, and preaching to the choir or the tone-deaf, depending on which poster. Relatively frequently a house, barn, or something catches fire or blows up because of meth being made in it and the process, whatever it is, going awry.

 

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It is also the drug of choice among fat, uneducated, and uninformed radio talk show hosts.

They really need to indict and convict the man, I think he would be bubba's best friend in some quaint Florida pen.

 

Legalize marijuana, sure I'd vote for that. Making the hard core stuff (meth, heroine, etc.) more available would just destroy more lives. Like I said I knew some decent kids that got into heroine and they are either dead now (35 years ago) or quit, I'd guess. I never knew anyone that got into to meth but the couple times that I meet someone like that, it was like looking into the eyes of a mad dog, not even a smidgen of humanity.

Bruce, thanks for the lesson on oxy.

 

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More tolerance and compassion? Oh, I forgot....anyone who doesn't agree with a liberal is uneducated and uniformed.

His drug of choice was actually Vicodin, which is less powerful than Percocet.

I've stated before here that I think he should be sent to prison. I think you have as much chance of seeing that as seeing Bill Clinton imprisoned for perjury.

 

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Can we blame his arrogance and brain damage on oxy?

 

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No, but the Vicodin was what destroyed his hearing.

 

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You overlook the fact that there was no flood prior to the drug laws.

That they could decree executions tells you something about the Chinese rulers of the time.

You overlook the foreign influences in China at that time.

I've been around awhile and NYC ain't Podunk. I know something about the effect of illegal drugs on both civilians and police. It is indeed not a pretty thing.

 

Rush and drugs...

I live in the Palm Beach area, and the local papers have been full of stories about Rush's "drug problem", since he is one of our more well-known celebrity citizens.

Apparently Rush was caught with a LOT of oxy. I mean hundreds if not thousands of pills.

I don't have my facts completely straight here, since I don't have the newspaper article in front of me (was from a few months ago), but I recall reading an article about some poor guy who lived in a trailer off near the Everglades getting caught with 5 tablets of oxy and getting a 20 year prison sentence out of it.

Rush, on the other hand, should go completely free since apparently volume in all matters (his weight, the amount of oxy he had, his rather loud mouth, and his bankbook) dictates a more lenient treatment for him.

Rush is also turning up the heat on the DA in charge of the case (a Democrat) by having the local Republican party functionaries and the State Bar Association of Florida (also Republican dominated) threaten all sorts of misdeeds and inappropriate proceedings type of stuff against the prosecution involved in the case. Of course Rush claims ignorance of all this.

Too bad he doesn't claim ignorance of everything else he says, because for once then he would be telling the truth!

 

Anyone who wants to legalize illicit drugs has a personal agenda. They are selfish and do not care, despite words to the contrary, about the health, safety, and welfare of others.

Those who want to legalize drugs need to work with substance abusers and personally witness the destruction of lives and families. They need to see, firsthand, the heartbreak, community devastation, and children crying in funeral parlors.

And, to anticipate a possible common response, I also think alcohol should be prohibited. A drug is a drug is a drug.

 

Jimmy A. Nation

Jimmy, are you about to start going around with a hatchet and bustin' up salooons????

 

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Are you really trying to tell me that drug laws cause drug abuse?

Then why do you seem to want the drug laws repealed?