Powell endorses Obama as 'transformational'

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  1. sentinel

    sentinel New Member

    Agreed. I was just exaggerating both extremes of political spectrum without thought of the good-evil dichotomy. If you find anyone other than God/Allah (good) or Satan (evil) at the two extremes of the the good-evil dichotomy, let us know.
     
  2. BDev

    BDev New Member

    I'm amazed at how excited the left is about someone from the Bush administration throwing their support behind Obama. Isn't that ironic?
    So would the left be excited if Coni endorsed Obama? How about Donald Rumsfeld? Better yet, Dick Cheney? As much as the left wails about Iraq, don't they remember who it was who forcefully argued before the Congress that we needed to go to Iraq: Colin Powell. Sure, president Bush wanted to go but it was Powell that did the vast majority of the convincing. Do you remember how passionately he spoke about the need to go there? I remember.


    For sake of argument, let's agree that going to Iraq was a wrong decision. Powell sure thought it was the right thing to do. Colin Powell opposed the surge in Iraq and he was wrong on that, too. I look at his backing Obama as just another bad decision.

    On the plus side for him: he gets to be black again. Isn't this the same left that called him an "Uncle Tom"? He's proving that he's "down" by supporting Obama. Colin Powell has been around too many true leaders to believe that Obama is remotely qualified to be POTUS. Obama, with his past affiliations, would have an extremely difficult time getting a security clearance but somehow half of the country thinks he should be elected as our leader.

    You guys are fooling yourselves if you honestly think this has nothing to do with race.

    I think the Clintons said it best: "he's a roll of the dice". I don't gamble. We have too much at stake. Even plumbers have some type of qualifications...but to be POTUS, you just have to give some good speeches, huh?
     
  3. raristud2

    raristud2 New Member

    REPUBLICANS ENDORSING OBAMA:

    * Former Sen. Lincoln Chafee served in the US Senate from 1999 to 2006 as a Republican representing Rhode Island. He left the Republican Party and endorsed Sen. Obama (D-Ill.).

    * Former U.S. Rep. Jim Leach, R-Iowa, gave a speech at the Democratic convention.

    * Virginia GOP Gov endorses Obama: Linwood Holton to Campaign For Obama

    Linwood Holton, Virginia’s first modern Republican governor in office from 1970 to 1974, endorsed Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) and will campaign for him around the state.

    * From LA Times: Former L.A. mayor, Republican Richard Riordan backs Barack Obama

    * Bill Ruckelshaus, who served in both the Nixon and Reagan administrations, announced that he is supporting Democrat Barack Obama for president.

    Ruckelshaus was appointed as the first chief of the Environmental Protection Agency in 1970 by President Nixon. In 1973, he was appointed acting director of the FBI and later named deputy U.S. attorney general. In an event known as the “Saturday Night Massacre,” Ruckelshaus and his boss, Elliot Richardson, famously resigned rather than obey an order from Nixon to fire the Watergate special prosecutor, Archibald Cox. In 1983, Ruckelshaus was appointed interim director of the EPA by President Reagan. At CNN, he was quoted as saying:

    “Senator Obama’s ability to attract not only Democrats, but also Republicans and Independents, makes him uniquely qualified to build the broad coalitions needed to address our nation’s challenges.”

    * Susan Eisenhower, granddaughter of President Dwight D. Eisenhower and a self-described “lifelong Republican,” penned an op-ed in February in The Washington Post (“Why I’m Backing Obama”). Eisenhower is president of the Eisenhower Group, which provides strategic counsel on political, business and public affairs projects. She also spoke at the Democratic convention.

    * Julie Nixon Eisenhower. Ms. Eisenhower, one of two daughters of President Richard M. Nixon and his wife, Pat, made the maximum $2.300 contribution to Mr. Obama. Ms. Eisenhower married Dwight David Eisenhower II, the grandson of President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

    She wrote a biography of her mother and is active in civic causes in the Philadelphia area, has given sporadically over the years to Republican candidates and committees, according to campaign finance records. She gave $1,000 to President Bush and another $1,000 to the Republican National Committee, for instance, in the 2004 election cycle. In the 2000 presidential race, she donated $1,000 to Senator John McCain’s unsuccessful run.

    * Douglas Kmiec, a professor at the Pepperdine University School of Law who was co-chairman of Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign’s Committee for the Courts and the Constitution; worked in the Reagan Justice Department (sharing an office with Samuel Alito).

    A week after Romney withdrew from the race, Kmiec wrote about his Obama reflections in an article for the online magazine Slate, which bore the provocative title “Reaganites for Obama?”

    * Mayor Ed Koch of New York is, I guess, nominally a Democrat, though he accepted cross-listing with the Republican party in his later elections, and did fundraising for them. And he’s generally endorsed Republicans, according to Wikipedia:
    “Since leaving office, Koch has frequently endorsed prominent Republican candidates, including Rudy Giuliani and Michael Bloomberg for Mayor, Al D’Amato for U.S. Senate, George Pataki for Governor, and, in 2004, George W. Bush for President of the United States” —
    until Koch endorsed Barack Obama. I think he qualifies to be included among this esteemed list.

    * Retired four-star Air Force General Merrill “Tony” McPeak endorsed Obama for President. Gen. McPeak, who is from Oregon, served in the Air Force for 35 years. Earlier in his military career he was a combat pilot and went on to lead the Air Force during the first war in Iraq (Operation Desert Storm). He was also a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. During the presidential election of 2000 McPeak endorsed George W. Bush and served as co-chairman of Oregon Veterans for Bush something he would later call an enormous mistake. Since then he has turned to Democrats because of his fear that the Republicans are hurting the nation’s military by their reckless actions. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrill_A._McPeak )

    Various other Republican officials listed here at the Obama for President site

    http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/gophome


    - Was General McPeak ever called a black sympathizer for endorsing Obama. Both McPeak and Powell endorsed Bush in the 2000 presidential election. McPeak appears to be "white". Some people are going into an uproar because a prominent black man endorsed a presidential candidate with dark skin color who has a white mother and white grandparents. This is ridiculous.
     
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  4. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Maybe this means that someone in the current administration now acknowledges that spoiled little baby Bush has screwed up the country long enough.
     
  5. OnMyWay

    OnMyWay Grand Duchess

    Hear ye and hear him.

    He admits that they made some wrong decisions and someone with fresh ideas and "intellectual vigor" needs to come and fix Bush's mess.

     
  6. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    'Lying' is your word. I think that I'd prefer to use 'rationalizing'.
     
  7. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    You chose Mandela and Goebbels as your examples without noticing the good-evil dichotomy? Really?

    There's no way that I'm going to agree in collapsing together and identifying the left-right and the good-evil distinctions. Liberals aren't good by their natures, nor are conservatives evil.
     
  8. sentinel

    sentinel New Member

    I was referring to my much earlier posting I made when I said "without noticing the good-evil dichotomy." In fact, the use of Mandela and Goebbels was in reference to political and ideological extremes and not as a direct one-to-one comparison of my thoughts about Obama or Limbaugh. I do not presume for one moment that Rush Limbaugh is as rotten to the core as was Joseph Goebbels. I was contrasting Obama to Limbaugh and Mandela to Goebbels with respect to the extreme positions on the political and ideological spectrum, not comparing any one of them to the others. Hopefully, I cleared up any confusion.
     
  9. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Oh, I fancy there might be a few that aren't. Just haven't met 'em yet. :D
     
  10. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Aw, no? :confused:
     
  11. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    As I've stated, I don't like Limbaugh and never have. I listen to sports talk radio when he's on in Boston.

    What I was pointing out was the hypocrisy of the allegedly compassionate and tolerant left, who seem to want to forgive everyone for anything, provided they aren't a conservative political figure.

    Unless someone is wearing an SS uniform or advocates exterminating innocent people I would never call them a Nazi, but if you want to compare political ideology;

    Liberal or conservative, who wants to;

    1) Ban or heavily restrict personal ownership of firearms

    2) Suppress religion (including lawsuits against Christmas displays)

    3) Form an omnipotent central government (limit state's rights)

    Those 3 items are straight out of the playbook of the National Socialist German Worker's Party, a.k.a. the Nazi Party.
     
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  12. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

  13. LadyExecutive

    LadyExecutive Member

    Colin Powell

    The fact that Colin Powell has endorsed Obama means nothing to me. Colin Powell who?
     
  14. sentinel

    sentinel New Member

    You will note that many Western Democracies have indeed moved in that direction and implemented some or all of these very changes.
     
  15. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Thank God, the United States hasn't been one of them.
     
  16. buckwheat3

    buckwheat3 Master of the Obvious

    Roger! I really love it when the U.S. is compared with other nations...especially when Europeans get involved and say something positive about a presidential candidate...to me that's warning... it’s like raising a red flag! More often than not, it is usually some socialist spouting off!
    Rule of them for ol Buckwheat: Vote the opposite of what Europeans or anyone else in this damn world prefers!
     
  17. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Ah, jingoism and xenophobia. Always handy when one wants to avoid the facts.
     
  18. BlueMason

    BlueMason Audaces fortuna juvat

    Well said.
     
  19. buckwheat3

    buckwheat3 Master of the Obvious

    Sorry Big-Daddy, no xenophobia here, most of my relatives, including my mother is from Europe.
    Some are from Syria too...maybe some xenophobia here....rightfully so...if you knew some of them...groan

    Just Acorn phobia and tax phobia. Could it be safe to assume, gun control is next and working harder just so I can be taxed more?

    Yea I saw Obama's nice one-side story tonight showing the plight of Americans who can't plan ahead....Just like that lady driving down a road in a big fat SUV...a recently bought home in the burbs...now bitchin' about not being able to make ends meet....I really hate to say it but I busted out laughing at her demonstrating the cultural mindset of today: I'm getting my ass deep in debt, all the while I know two salient events are occurring, First the continual erosion of the middle class because of globalization...regardless who's in office and second: Prices always climb especially related to transportation costs.....oh but is she selling that big SUV for a corolla...heaven forbid! It was apparent her status among the neighbors is far more important than the weekly "snack section" she has for her kids in the refrigerator...maybe a second job would be in order?

    Yet the buffoons also expect everything to be the post WWII 60's where everyone still has a job at the same place for 30 years and the folks in India
    and China don’t like gasoline, they would instead want to keep smackin' a water buffalo on the ass all day long in a rice paddy.....geezzzz

    Now pray tell how is Obama going to stop Globalization? Slap a duty on everything?
    He's just taking advantage of the social unrest... an event which would have occurred regardless of who is in office...and the sheeple are running to the government with their hands outstretched and have inhaled the Obama bait like a carp on a turd...wanting to touch the hem of his garment, in an effort to escape the two key words in our society: Personal responsibility
     
  20. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    It's jingoistic and xenophobic to believe in the US Constitution? :rolleyes:

    1. Second Amendment

    2. First Amendment

    3. Tenth Amendment
     

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