Pentagon: Foreign Infiltration through Muslum Recruitment?

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  1. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Stanislav, in the Electoral College, most Americans DID vote for Donald Trump the first time around, which is why and how he got elected to be president. He will also be reelected for a second term too. It's going to be a very fast eight years of his presidential leadership.
     
  2. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member


    How come a majority of voters did not vote for Hillary?

    No candidate received a majority of votes, not even Faith Spotted Eagle.
     
  3. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Decimon, I consider myself as much of a HRC partisan as anyone outside of the actual Clintonworld. I think the woman is a rockstar and was robbed. Yet, did you ever read me stating things like "yes, Americans and foreigners love Hillary, but <snarlword>s, <bigger snarlworld>s and <snarly> <snarlword3>s do not care for her"? No, because that would be demonstrably false. So why should I let me again get away with the same absurdity about a short-fingered vulgarian manbaby sex offender Russian patsy con artist who actually got almost 3 million fewer votes? "That is illogical".
     
  4. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Electoral College does not reflect how most Americans voted, pal. Also, his inauguration crowd is embarrassingly small, and his fingers are short. Nyah nyah nyah.
     
  5. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Stanislav, the United States is a Republic with an Electoral College where most Americans voted for President Trump. The leftist MSM presented fake polls showing that Hillary Clinton would win by 97%. It was all "Fake news"! In reality, in the Electoral College:
    - 43% voted for Hillary Clinton
    - 56% voted for Donald Trump
    - Donald Trump had a respectable 13% win over Hillary Clinton.

    Stanislav, if you're suggesting that the United States is not a democracy, then you're correct. Thank you for pointing that out. Democracies are notorious for devolving into mob rule, to include:
    - leftist protesters battering victims
    - leftist protesters destroying storefronts and vehicles
     
  6. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Stanislav, as a foreigner, are those the qualities that you are looking for in American leadership?
     
  7. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member


    He should have won New York and Massachusetts with that. I want a recount.
     
  8. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    It's like saying "100% of Emiratis voted for Sheikh Khalifa for Presidents of the UAE". And later reveal that the vote was held in the Federal Supreme Council with 7 people as hereditary voters (Emirs). Technically true, so hey, Emiratis love Sheikh Khalifa!


    ...to be sure, nowadays the Sheikh does have higher approval rating at home than Trump does. Sad!

    P. S. it's hard to like both democracy and Putin, right, me again?
     
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  9. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Personally, I don't care. However, he seems to care for a bizarre degree. Of course, as a citizen of your NATO ally, I prefer American leadership to not be a complete idiot. That would be good for democracy worldwide, for trade, and economic prosperity in both countries.
     
  10. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    The American economy has been raging under Donald Trump -- and it will continue to improve. We will have eight years of prosperity under both of Trump's elected presidential terms.
     
  11. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    So you are saying the inability to follow a simple conversation that he showed with the Australian somehow helps the economy? Huh!
    Also, if you have a crystal ball - how come you're not yet a billionaire?
     
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The president doesn't have that sort of control over the economy, and doesn't deserve credit when it's good or blame when it's bad, regardless of party or even ideology.
     
  13. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    There is most definitely a "market psychology" i.e. the market can increase or decrease, based on perceptions and expectations of citizens, consumers, CEOs, investors, etc. It's also amazing that everything is increasing under Trump, regardless of who you would like to give credit to:
    - Jobs are increasing and unemployment is decreasing
    - Stock market is increasing
    - National debt is decreasing

    It will be interesting to see the GDP after Trump has been in office for 12 months.
     
  14. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Stanislav, only a crystal ball could decipher what you wrote.
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    The Dow Jones has been on a 9-year tear since pulling out of the 2008 nosedive. See chart. Dow Jones - 10 Year Daily Chart | MacroTrends

    Amazing growth! Thank you, Mr. Obama! :smile: Mr. Trump is indeed fortunate to have been elected at this point in the business cycle. Wonder what he's going to tweet when it heads the other way - as it eventually must.

    J.
     
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  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yes - as seen in The South Seas Bubble, Tulip Mania, 1929, the various "Panics," Junk Bonds in the 80s, etc...

    I refer readers to Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds Charles McKay, 1841. It's still in print, after 176 years.

    J.
     
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  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Speaking of the expectations of citizens, consumers, investors et al., I have some Czarist Russian notes that were thought valuable, up to about a century ago. Perhaps I should dig them out of the storage box. Maybe they're due for a comeback? :laugh:

    No? Well, at least they're quite attractive - and an object lesson in expectations, long before I bought them, for a very few dollars. A lot of great history and economics lessons in that storage box... didn't cost a lot, either.

    J.
     
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  18. Life Long Learning

    Life Long Learning Active Member

    Just a 20 year printing press out of control. The bubble will break one day if there is any realism left in the markets. If not its just fixed.


     
  19. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

  20. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I think you're undermining your own argument. Obama inherited Bush's failures and so the poor economic momentum continued into Obama's administration. Similarly, Trump inherited Obama's successes which continued into the Trump administration. Trump really hasn't done anything to shift the economy so it's not really believable if he tries to take credit for the good numbers so far in his tenure. If the numbers continue to be good into year 2 then I'll be happy to give him some credit.
     

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