PC gone wild

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  1. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  2. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    Whenever I see the abbreviation PC, I wonder whether we're talking about personal computers, political correctness, or Port Clinton.
     
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  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Easter is celebrated both as a religious and a secular holiday. I am a huge fan of keeping religion out of the public sector--I'm looking at you, Boy Scouts of America--but Easter egg hunts are more about celebrating Spring rather than the resurrection.

    By the way, this isn't an example of "political correctness." That term applies to situations where someone says something that is not correct in order to avoid hurting someone else's feelings. This situation seems to be an over-reach, but not "PC."
     
  4. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator Staff Member

    My coworker told me that his kids school is getting rid of the honor roll because it made some kids feel bad that they did not make it. Let's not reward effort and acomplishment, let's tell them they are all equal regardless of how hard we work. Next thing you know they will stop keeping score at kids sports games so there are no winner or losers.
     
  5. DanielC

    DanielC New Member

    Closing the achievement gap.
     
  6. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator Staff Member

    The word "Easter" was actually derived from the name of the goddess "Ishtar" the Babylonian goddess of fertility, war, love, and sex. (the pronunciation is the same) Maybe we could all hunt Ishtar eggs, I wonder if that would be offensive too.

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  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I'm agnostic to the point of being functionally atheist. But kids hunting for Easter eggs is cultural, not religious. Objecting to it seems more anti-fun than anti-religion.
     
  8. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator Staff Member

    FUN! we will have none of that. What about kids that can not have fun on that day, how will they feel if others are having fun?
     
  9. RAM PhD

    RAM PhD Member

    Can you imagine how the 98% of the populace must feel because they haven't earned a PhD? I have a solution! Either, (1) take away the PhD from all those who have earned one; or, (2) award every living human a PhD.
     
  10. RAM PhD

    RAM PhD Member

    An accurate assessment!
     
  11. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    RAM: "award every living human a PhD."

    John: As the lovely New Yorker cartoon I used to include in my book (with permission) goes: King on balcony addressing the masses: "I want this to be the best-educated country in the world. Therefore you are all being issued a doctorate in the subject of your choice."
     
  12. JWC

    JWC New Member

    There is nothing Christian about Easter.
     
  13. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I think we're both right

    "Political correctness (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is a term which denotes language, ideas, policies, and behavior seen as seeking to minimize social and institutional offense in occupational, gender, racial, cultural, sexual orientation, certain other religions, beliefs or ideologies, disability, and age-related contexts, and, as purported by the term, doing so to an excessive extent. In current usage, the term is primarily pejorative,[1][2] while the term politically incorrect has been used as an implicitly positive self-description. Examples of the latter include the conservative The Politically Incorrect Guide published by Regnery Publishing and the television talk show Politically Incorrect. In these cases, the term politically incorrect connotes language, ideas, and behavior unconstrained by a perceived orthodoxy or by concerns about offending or expressing bias regarding various groups of people." (from wikipedia)
     
  14. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I could be wrong but I think there's going to be a whole bunch of people in church this sunday who would disagree with you.
     
  15. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    I honestly cannot believe the world we live in today.
     
  16. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator Staff Member

    During some recent HR training we discussed making allowances for people disabilities. The story goes - there was a woman that complained about everything. She said she was allergic to ever perfume, lotion, and even deodorant people wore. Her dozen or so co-workers had to change their lives to accommodate. About 3-4 months goes by and she started to complain again. Someone finally said, "I don't believe her - she should be tested for allergies if these are her claims" She was tested and was allergic to nothing! People started to wear every perfume and lotion they could find.

    But wait there is more - the laws may/did (can't remember) change that if the person "perceives" they have a disability you must treat them as if they actually do! Just another example of not letting people stand on their own two feet and be responsible.
     
  17. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Fallacy of mass appeal.

    If you define "Christian" as "one who follows the teachings of Jesus Christ" as opposed to "one who goes to a church that calls iself Christian" then JWC is entirely correct.

    Keep in mind also that the tradition of Easter was originally adopted by the same church that for centuries mercilessly persecuted, even executed, people who tried to study, distribute or translate the Bible. Christian, much?
     
  18. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Not being a Christian, or otherwise a follower of Jesus, I'm not inclined to opine on who should and shouldn't call themselves Christian or whether or not it's "really" Christian to observe Easter.

    I don't disagree that examples of hypocrisy among Christians aren't hard to find, but then, neither is hypocrisy among everyone else. *shrug*
     
  19. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I think that people self-identify as Christian and do not need anyone to "define" that for them. As for your second point, I don't see how it's relevant.
     
  20. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Would you then be ok with me, say, robbing a bank and then claiming I did it because I'm a follower of [Insert Kizmet's Real Name Here]? Would you be ok with mass media attributing robberies accross the nation to your name because a bunch of people self-identified as your followers?

    I don't see how you don't see the relevance. How can one be "Christian" who suppresses rather than upholds the teachings of Christ?
     

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