Pacific Western University

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by me again, Mar 22, 2005.

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  1. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I've done a little bit of tax work...the computer does the figuing, yes, but it doesn't know how to characterize deductions and exclusions...

    I'd be REALLY concerned if I had a potential loss carryover... probably a capital loss, right?... I don't want to scare you or anything but six figure losses in personal income tax invite an audit, I'll bet.

    You might want to talk to a CPA?

    Like RIGHT NOW!!
     
  2. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    We went the conservative route and I can only claim $3000 per year for the next 20 years. :rolleyes:

    A K1 form was never issued and I really wasn't an integral part of the operation, so I couldn't claim it as a business loss (but rather had to claim it as a personal loss). If I had claimed it as a business loss, then I could have written off the entire amount (100,000+), but conversely, it would have raised red flags with the IRS and I would not legally be able to justify it. In a business loss, I could have written off the entire amount and basically not paid taxes for the next three or four years, but as a personal loss, I can only write off 3000 per year for the next 20 years, thus, I'll be lucky to recoup $15,000 when it's all said and done. But after 20 more years, what will 15,000 be worth (at the rate of inflation)? :rolleyes:

    Also, the scoundrels involved in the loss of the money were arrested and we may have some pending criminal litigation, if they don't plea out. If I would have claimed the loss as a business loss (instead of as a personal loss), then I would have to have claimed that I was instrumental in the operation of the corporation.... and I wouldn't want to do that because I would be falsely claiming criminal culpability!!!

    So, I've basically chalked it up as a loss or as a lesson in life. We live and we learn. Conversely, what goes around eventually comes back around, so everything will work out just fine in the long run. :)
     
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: The New Pacific Western University

     
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: PWU Changes

    Oh? Who are the new owners of the Hawaiian connection?
     
  5. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Actually, me again, my posting was not an attack on you... but, rather, on him and his ethics. At worst, I was pointing-out your apparent logical disconnect, which isn't a shameful thing, by any means. But nothing I wrote was intended to humiliate you. Heck, if I had been intending to humiliate and/or insult you, I would have written something more in the spirit of...


    What does his being a Jew have to do with his ability to make a buck... or vice versa... honest or otherwise? Hmm, Mr. Dangerously-Close-to-Sounding-Like-an-Anti-Semite?

    Based on the opinion of the vast majority of people at DegreeInfo, including me, I'd say "yes, you should." Let's not forget that PWU in California is run by the same people who run the one in Hawaii. About the one in Hawaii, Dr. Bear writes in his "
    Bear's Guide to Earning Degrees by Distance Learning (15th Edition):"
    • "The school's literature states that 'all degree programs are primarily based on what the student has already learned. If the student is worthy, competent, and eminently qualified, the University will confer the appropriate degree.' The program includes preparation of a resume/learning portfolio, a 'warrant' (a 600-word essay on the student's career field), a bachelor's thesis (8 pages) or qualifying exercise (12 pages), a master's project or doctoral dissertation. In 1997, the State of Hawaii Department of Consumer Affairs sued Pacific Western, claiming violation of the state law relating to disclosure of nonaccreditation, and demanding that all students and alumni wishing a refund be given one. Around the same time, the national television program American Journal did a segment on PWU, in which they showed an empty room in Hawaii as the 'campus' there (the university is run from Los Angeles), and claimed one of their staff members was able to complete a master's degree in less than two weeks (a charge later disputed by PWU, but no legal action was taken)."
    Seems pretty clear to me. What part of your moral compass is malfunctioning such that you're unable to see what part of theirs clearly is?

    From your typing fingers to God's ears... er... computer screen... or whatever it is he uses.

    Then why didn't you just buy a copy of
    TurboTax; or download a free copy of TaxAct (or spend a lousy $12.95 on the Deluxe version) and let your computer do it for a whole lot less?

    So, then, the computer didn't do all the work, after all. And, in fact, if you're intending to show a $100,000 loss -- a red-flag waiver to the IRS computers if ever there was one -- a great deal of judgement on that part of your preparer was callef for... no? So which is it? Did the computer do everything (in which case you didn't really need the preparer); or did you, in fact, need the preparer -- and his questionable ethics -- quite a bit?

    Uh, huh.

    I see.

    So... listen... lemmee ask ya' somethin'... will they allow you to use a computer with Internet access in federal prison, or will we just have to learn to live without your witty repartee here for three or four years?

    Like what, precisely?

    Please don't. After all, if it's true that we're judged by the company we keep... well... you know the rest.

    Well, that's not really any of your damned business, is it? Isn't it interesting, though, that that question tends to be the very first place to which trolls and mill shills go (and I'm not saying you're one; I'm just saying you do your image no good by resorting to their classic methodologies) whenever they've run out of ammunition?

    And, anyway... what could the answer, one way or the other, possibly have to do with the credibility of a guy whom you brought up; who does taxes, owns several businesses and is, according to you, "successful;" and who has two diploma-mill degrees hanging on his wall that even he said would require at least an additional fifty cents in order to trade for a cup of coffee?



    ...or something like that. Of course, I didn't write to you like that. I'm just sayin' that if I had, that would be what it would have looked more like if I had meant to humiliate or insult you... you know... just so you have something against which to compare it.

    So... I just don't understand your position, here, me again -- and, especially, your attack, generally. I mean, I've read some of your other stuff and you didn't usually come across like someone who doesn't get it about unaccredited insitutions of PWU's ilk. Your thread-starting post also seemed to suggest that you get it. So how have I irritated and/or offended you in some other way, and in some other place, such that you've decided to take such swipes at me?
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

     
  7. Also, the (AACSB) international membership provides to Pacific Western University the followings effects, now:

    1.Pacific Western University is in the process to develop programs that meet the quality expectations of students, employers and stakeholders.

    2.Pacific Western University is obtaining wide-ranging and up to date information regarding the field of administration education.

    3.Pacific Western University is locating professional development programs to keep administrators, faculty, and academic programs up to date and efficient.

    4.Pacific Western University it is achieving its management education quality and continuous improvement goals. Also, brings together collegiate management education administrators and faculty with business sector stakeholders to focus on the challenges affecting success within the global management education environment.

    5.At the present, Pacific Western University is connected with global network of more than 950 educational institutions, corporate and nonprofit organizations representing more than 71 nations.

    6.Pacific Western University, nowadays, have professional development programs for faculty and administrators

    7.Pacific Western University have liaison and collaboration with management education disciplinary associations, U.S. regional deans associations, and counterpart management education associations worldwide

    8.Pacific Western University, [nowadays member of AACSB International], are encouraged by AACSB International to display the AACSB International logo and name on their Web site and other appropriate communications to stakeholders and the public. http://www.aacsb.edu/members/nameref.asp
     
  8. RXI

    RXI New Member

    the New Pacific Western University

    Thank you Dr. Latin Juris,

    With your new information and my earlier post above newbies and lurkers can now learn about the new Pacific Western University. From there they can make up their own minds. There is no information in the archives about the new PWU.

    When a school changes its management, academic structure, and its programs for the better, it should be rewarded and not frowned upon. I never could understand the philosophy in bashing any school, including this one, for trying to upgrade and better themselves.

    I wish Pacific Western University the best of luck for their new future.

    RXI
     
  9. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Pacific Western University

    Interesting. Bizarre too.
     
  10. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Exactly the sort of response I expected. Thank you.
     
  11. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Re: the New Pacific Western University

    RXI

    Your above post clearly shows your posts are misinformation. A school needs to show it HAS changed, not that it MIGHT have changed. St Regis and dozens of other degree mills use the latter to confuse and defraud while never intending any real change. If PWU is starting to lead a respectable existence they could begin by clearly naming their owners. A legitimate venture wouldn't have a need to hide such information. Then they might even consider ACCREDITATION! :D
     
  12. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Re: the New Pacific Western University

    Some of the most blatant shilling I've ever seen on this board. I actually enjoyed it! ;)

    What new information have you provided or the not-so-good Dr. Latin provided? Where do get all this "inside" information? What leads you to believe the things that you've stated in this thread? Why do you not discuss the journalistic article done by the TV station in LA?

    I too hope that PWU is well on its way to gaining at least some respectibility. For now, it still looks like a California approved degree mill to me.
     
  13. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Pacific Western University

    Caution!!! Long post ahead!!!
    Oh boy. :rolleyes:

    Okay, I’ll bite and I’ll try to respond to your diatribe.
    That’s a very interesting question. Why on earth are you asking it? :rolleyes:
    Ah, I see: That’s your clever way of calling me anti-Semitic. Very clever of you to plant such an innuendo seed. False nonetheless.
    Truly this is diatribe. How can such drivel be adequately addressed??? Moving right along...
    I’m not sure that I can read much more of your drivel, but I’ll keep moving forward. Yuck.
    You don’t know what I paid him, if anything at all. Oh, reading this is tough. Let’s push onwards a tad bit more. Maybe we’ll find something worthwhile. And maybe not.
    Whew, I’ve read and re-read your post and, frankly, it doesn’t seem cogent.
    You’re inference is that I’m going to prison??? ROFLMBO :)

    Ohhhhh, we meet all kinds on the internet. < slaps forehead >

    Of everything that you’ve written, I really did enjoy reading your inference that I’m going to prison.

    Here’s your response from when I asked if you are the holder of a non-RA diploma:
    It was just a question!!! Cool your jets!!!
    Citizen, you’re reading too much into all of this.
    Well, handling people like you isn’t really that hard. This is, after all, just an internet forum, right? :)

    There, I answered your post, even if it wasn't what you wanted to hear!!! :)
     
  14. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Re: Re: the New Pacific Western University

    And me.
     
  15. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Oh, no... you're doin' just fine.

    Nope. It was just perfect. You represented yourself as no one but you possibly could. You didn't actually answer any of the questions, of course; or reply in any meaningful way to any of my points...

    ...but that's all part of the deliciousness of it, isn't it?

    Thanks. You did just fine.
     
  16. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Re: Oh, no... you're doin' just fine.

    Thank you kindly for the compliment. :)

    Ah shucks, you mean you weren't complimenting me after all? < slaps forehead >

    In all seriousness, some of your questions seemed surreal and frankly didn't deserve a responce. How can a cogent answer be given to a question that isn't cogent? By no means is this meant as an insult. although I'm certain it will be taken that way.

    And since you refuse to answer my question about whether you are the holder of a non-RA diploma, I won't ask it any more. :)
     
  17. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Re: Oh, no... you're doin' just fine.

    Wait a minute... you mean what you had written up to that point was sarcasm, wit and/or humor? Sorry I didn't recognize it. My bad.

    Really? Like... which ones, for example, were surreal or not cogent and didn't deserve a respone?

    C'mon now, me again... no peeing on my leg and then telling me it's raining. You know better than that!

    I most definitely do not hold a non-RA diploma.
     
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  18. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    That's not a brownie on your dessert plate

    Oh, this is good.

    A bunch of undocumented assertions which, if true (yeah, right), still don't add up to anything. A touch of surrealism from someone always balaguered by the truth. A guest appearance by a Crabb regular. And a dash of anti-Semitism. Dollops of overt shilling--a violation of the TOS, by the way--and the presentation of the milled dessert is complete with the idiotic garnish that no one who does NOT hold a mill degree can accurately assess an LTW for the scam it is.

    I don't need to eat shit to know I don't want to.

    If any of the nasty shills for PWE or TurboPWE ever actually presented worthwile information on reputable schools that benefited someone else, one might pardon this as a lapse in judgment. But this is as good as it ever gets.

    Newbies and lurkers, do not be deceived.

    Real schools do not give rise to prevaricators and bigots rationalizing stuff away while spewing venom. Real schools don't whine "but we're LEEEEGAL." (Why wouldn't they be?) Except for Cal Coast, real schools don't have crap artists posting here trying to make excuses for unethical schools and academically derisory programs.

    Take a look at the posts advertising the tarted-up PWE.

    If a school you are considering gets erm defended in this way, RUN!
     
  19. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Re: That's not a brownie on your dessert plate

    Far, and fast. And don't look back.
     
  20. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Oh, no... you're doin' just fine.

    You would not tell me if you were a holder of a non-RA diploma, saying it was none of my "damned" business... and now you just answered? < scratches head >

    No matter. Thank you for providing the long sought after answer. :D
     

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