Online based Business Doctoral Programs with AACBS Accredition?

Discussion in 'Business and MBA degrees' started by Bob Grayson, Mar 29, 2020.

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  1. Bob Grayson

    Bob Grayson New Member

    Folks... with this virus craziness I have decided to consider online business directorial programs. (mid career) I only want to invest in a directorial degrees if I can complete it while working full time and holds an accreditation that will be most recognized by companies and universities if I would like to teach at the collegiate level in the future. In my mind that means AACBS accreditation. I also would like to not break the bank but that may be impossible.

    I live in eastern PA -- which means any online + cohorts would need to be achievable. I'd much prefer majority or 100% online.

    What options do I have?

    Thank in advance.
     
  2. JoshD

    JoshD Active Member

    Bob,

    Welcome to Degree Info!

    There are going to be very few AACSB Accredited PhD programs that can be completed via Distance Learning but there are a few. Note, however, most are going to require some form of residency. How that looks amid COVID-19, I am not sure. Probably one of the more cheaper options would be UNC-Greensboro. I believe it is roughly $50,000.

    I will add, because I was looking at Distance Learning PhDs as well, that if you have the thought of pursuing a position in academics it would be best to go to the best possible program you can get admitted to.
     
  3. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Active Member

    Hello!

    Do you consider universities from UK? In this case, the University of Middlesex might be among other options interesting for you.

    Best regards,
    Mac Juli
     
  4. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    Improve your writing skills. Big time. :rolleyes:
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    As has been discussed many times on this board, your challenge will not be finding an appropriate doctoral program to enter. Your problem will be finding an academic career after completing it. Doing a short- or non-residential doctorate is not conducive for entering into academia. Not because of the delivery methodology, but because you aren't part of the pre-career run-up to academia experienced by full-time, on-campus students.

    That doesn't mean you can't get there with such a degree. But it does mean that such a degree is not DESIGNED to achieve that outcome. We have a thread on this board (do a search, please) where examples of these exceptions have been cited. But that's not the same as saying it is a good idea, because it most certainly is not.

    Contemplating doing a doctoral degree is a very good time for also considering what you're going to be when you graduate. You might just realize that doing the degree does not lead you where you want to go, and is therefore a bad idea.
     
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  6. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    There are a few things that Steve says that I agree with, and this is one of them.
     
  7. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I'm unsure what you mean by the term "business directorial programs." This is not a common term and I wonder what specific degree you have in mind. It will be virtually impossible to point you toward an appropriate program without knowing whether you're referring to a DBA, at PhD, an MBA or some other specific designation.
     
  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Whereas I don't. Posting on a discussion board is hardly a test of one's writing ability. Some people loosen the rules of grammar, punctuation, usage, etc. Sometimes auto-correct has an unwanted say in what's printed. Then there is the forum itself, as in "who cares"?

    I'm much more interested in the substance of a post as opposed to the style.

    Kizmet brings up a point I meant to raise: are we talking PhD or perhaps a professional doctorate? It matters. But what matters most is the outcome desired and the degree's role in attaining it.
     
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  9. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    The O.P. is talking about neither - he is, rather, talking about "online business directorial programs." One that is accredited by "AACBS."

    We do not know if English is the first language of the O.P. What we can surmise is that he does not know the difference between "directorial" and "doctoral," nor between "AACBS" and "AACSB." I won't even begin when it comes to his atrocious grammar.

    Now, Rich may think that none of that matters. (I'm surprised at that, since one of the things Union graduates used to have in common is solid writing skills.) But if our O.P. doesn't get his writing act together, he will not only risk not being admitted to a credible doctoral program, he will risk crapping out once he gets in. And he'll most certainly risk his chance of being hired for a faculty position down the road.

    Have "directorial" programs so lowered their admissions standards that they will take someone who simply can't write well? Never mind - that's a rhetorical question. Many doctoral programs will take anyone who's willing to pay. Which is one more reason that higher education has gone down the tubes.
     
  10. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    That's fine, and that's only your perception.
     
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  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    We have nothing in common. The fact that we hold degrees from the same university is a coincidence. I would prefer that you would refrain from such associations. It gives others the implied impression that we agree on matters in which we most certainly do not. I may or may not agree with you on one individual point or another, but I would rather it stand on its own instead of being implied by the mere fact that we attended the same school.

    I disagree with the way you speak to people. I disagree with your blanket assertions that border one being one-person dogma. But primarily, I disagree with you as a person. I find you revolting, off-putting, and offensive. I have withered your insults, your condescension, and your mis-characterizations for more than two decades. I tolerate them because, as many have noted, "that's just Steve being Steve." Well, when Steve is being Steve, he's a disappointing bore.

    But as we all know, this is your board. I do not expect anyone's comments--much less their feelings--to matter to you or to alter the way you behave. They never have. That's why this post is not for you. It is for anyone who might form some notion of a tacit agreement with, or acceptance of, the way you treat people.
     
  13. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    Why, Rich, I'm honored! Most of the people you insult around here get one whopping line from you - you have just graciously given me three whole paragraphs!

    But I must admit that I agree with you on the notion of our having nothing in common except for our mutual graduation from the same school. You know, Union - the one I zipped through as a two-year wonder and that you crapped out of, prior to your becoming the senior shill for an insidious degree mill (MIGS). If it were not for John Bear's intervention on your behalf, which you have oft admitted here, we would not even have a mutual alma mater in common.

    Even now, as I've recently been attempting to set you up as the senior-expert-to-be here once John and I have moved from this existence, and despite your being unworthy of that position because of your fragile ego, you've attempted to start a new tirade. I reviewed my original comment about you (above), and did not find it insulting at all. Yet for some reason, you have taken it to heart and written a vehement magnum opus in response. So, do you now have it out of your system? That, of course, is a rhetorical question, since this is my last response to you. I fully trust that you will go on being an insignificant troll in the larger scheme of things, and wish you the best. I accept the notion that some people are simply destined for mediocrity, and that the first people to accuse others of ad hominem attacks are sometimes the biggest perpetrators of them. (Your notion of DI being my board is, of course, absurd - I have never claimed any special role on this or any other educational forum. As for my being condescending to you, well, if the shoe fits...)

    So be well, my old friend. You do realize, of course, that I'm laughing at you as I write this. Because one thing that has not changed in the two decades you cited in your tirade is that you are sooooooo easily baited. :D
     
  14. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  15. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Say whatever you want, Steve. It's your board.
     
  16. JoshD

    JoshD Active Member

    In all seriousness, who created this forum?
     
  17. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    That would be Chip.
     
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  18. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    I agree that most of the online doctorates are really professional oriented and not designed for academic careers. However, some small Universities and colleges are not really interested in a research but more of a professional profile so the online PhD from an AACSB accredited school can work in particular in fields like Finance and Accounting.
    The main barrier you will find is mainly psychological. Most traditional schools would have hiring committees with people that completed PhDs in a traditional 5 year residential program. These people are not going to accept someone that completed an online 3 or 5 year part time program even if AACSB accredited. These folks have left professional careers, home countries and starved with low salaries during five years to complete a doctorate while many of them had already families with children. These people are not going to vote for someone that had a good job and earned a DBA or professional PhD in 3 years as they will think that this person did not make the same sacrifice. It is totally emotional and non logical but it works like this, I have been in many hiring committees and people will toss out a resume the minute the person did it online or part time or in executive format, etc. They just feel that the did not do the same amount work period. In reality, the person with a 3 year part time PhD or no PhD can do a good or better job than a person with a 5 year full time program, the research requirements at some teaching schools are low so even a MSc graduate can satisfy them but it is not about being qualified but not belonging to a club.
    Some members here are enthusiastic and will show CVs of people that have a degree from a very low profile school (e.g. UoP) and show them that this person achieved a full time tenure track position at some credible school. Yes, it is possible to get a tenure track with a low ranked PhD but many times this is about the timing (e.g. shortage of faculty in a field), politics or just the person is bringing a lot of networks to the table. However, for the vast majority of people that do not have great networks or are not majoring in a field with shortages, the online part time fast track option is not going to cut it.
     
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  19. AsianStew

    AsianStew Active Member

    @Bob Grayson , what PhD are you looking for? Even in Business, they can be in so many sub fields. BTW, which Masters degree did you recently finish and where did you finish it? If you're looking at similar programs, are you looking for the cheap/easy/fast route entirely online or are you OK with trips to the campus?
     
  20. felderga

    felderga Member

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