NYC homeowner arrested after standoff with squatters who illegally took over her $1 million property

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  1. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I was responding to your statement that I explicitly replied to.
    To recap, you made the claim (without any evidence that crime in NY can't be reduced. I simply provided evidence that crime in NY can be and has been reduced.
     
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  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Bill, reduced on paper, is not the same as reduced in practice.
    I gave an example in another thread where stats on paper are off significantly because of underreported crimes and burglaries, assaults etc.

    One would say economy is good, yet its been long time that I'm been driving on a major street that has fast food restorants, Taco bell, Del Taco, El Polo Loco, and many other franchises.
    Around noon the lines in drive throu used to be good 30 min wait, now its like an abondoned businesses, at times not a single car. I pointed this to my wife, as we drove by many of those franchises.
    I'm not a fan of fast food but I told her that a month ago when I was in hurry and hungry I got 4 regular items and ended up paying 35$. That was last time and I'm no longer going to use that fast food, it ridiculously expansive.
    We drove by another popular fast food that used to have long lines, and there was only one car in the drive through and one in the parking lot.
    Homelessness and businesses closings, product quality went down and people are talking, they don't agree with what's on the paper and the value of the paper. It's still good in comparison to many other places, but people say it used to be better.
     
  3. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    $8-10 each is a bit steep, but not that unusual, in my experience. It wasn't unusual a few years ago, either. It's why I usually order from the "value menu" at those kinds of places.
     
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  4. Suss

    Suss Active Member

    Also, lots of those businesses sell a lot through online delivery services now, so you can't really tell--their overall business might be greater than before the pandemic. There won't be a queue of cars around the block, and there will be fewer in the parking lot.
     
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  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    On the ground I see no customers, I used to go there when kids were little.
    It was very affordable. Now I see fast food ghost town.
     
  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    You would see delivery drivers taking place of regular customer drivers. But I see almost deserted, abandoned franchises.
    I hope you are right, but wouldn't delivery drivers replace regular customers, even if they take few orders at a time?
     
  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The delivery drivers would be there for three minutes. Sit down customers would be there for an hour. There's an Indian restaurant near me that is always nearly empty, but isn't going out of business, and a Thai place near me that closed to sit down diners altogether and just does pickup and delivery.
     
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  8. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Mmmmmm.....Thai...
     
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  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    It's been this way in New York City for many years. A huge chunk of their sales are delivery. It's why eating out at a restaurant in NYC is relatively cheap compared to most anything else in the city.
     
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  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    A government --- doing something SMART. What a novel concept. "Hey, Ottawa! Seen this?" :)
     
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  12. Suss

    Suss Active Member

    Restaurants that use delivery to get products to customers don't have to pay as much for laundry services, cleaning staff, etc. Disposable food containers and flatware are much cheaper than investing in china and stainless steel knifes, forks, and spoons. The orders come in electronically, so there is less need to hire servers who make errors when taking orders.

    In the B.C. (before covid) era, it would have been hard to imagine that a restaurant like McDonald's would deliver. Today that makes up such a big proportion of their business that they've developed their own apps and offer specific promotions for delivery.

    In many areas, people no longer spend 40+ hours in an office. At best they are present 2 or 3 days a week, and an increasing number are not present at all. B.C. they would have lined up around the block in their cars for lunch. Today, if they're not eating last night's leftovers, they're ordering delivery from their favorite restaurant. Not just office workers--here in NYC construction workers will order and have food delivered to them in the field.
     
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  13. Suss

    Suss Active Member

    Forgot to mention: lots of "empty" restaurants are now running as ghost kitchens, preparing food orders for as many as 10 to 20 "name" restaurants, especially those with meme names or named after celebrities and influencers. IHOPs do this a lot.
     
  14. Suss

    Suss Active Member

    Here's another NYC innovation: Zoom cashiers in the Philippines working at a NYC Japanese fried chicken joint...

    So there wouldn't even be a car in the parking lot for the cashier, if L.A. restaurants started doing this...
    https://www.404media.co/sansan-chicken-zoom-cashier/?ref=daily-stories-newsletter
     
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  15. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    This only looks at the first month of the year, which is hardly enough to establish a trend. Even worse, it takes several months for crime statistics to be finalized and these numbers were released only days after the end of January. Allow me to illustrate why this doesn't work.

    Looking at the year-over-year crime rates for 2022-2023, crime only appears to be down in NYC when you compare the complete statistics for 2022 with the incomplete statistics from 2023 that were released in January. The revised data show a slight increase in crime in 2023.

    I'm not at all a fan of the New York Post, but others have been slow to get the revised data out there and this article gets its stats directly from the NYPD: http://nypost.com/2024/04/03/us-news/crime-was-in-fact-up-year-as-mayor-adams-tries-to-downplay-disorder/amp/

    Even still, some types of crimes being down doesn't mean all crimes are down. Murder IS down, and that's a great thing. Overall, however, major crime was reported as having increased by 22% year-over-year, even in January. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/05/nyregion/new-york-crime-stats.html

    For argument's sake, let's say crime actually was down. Slight decreases in crime rates would be a step in the right direction, but would still pale in comparison to the dramatic increase in crime that occured just a few years ago. With modest reductions each year, NYC would still not be on pace for returning to pre-pandemic levels any time this decade.

    Lastly, underreporting is a problem, but we have no real way of knowing how much of a problem it is. I did some work in the Bronx a couple of years ago, and I had to take my car there. I parked in an area that's generally considered to be safe. When I got back to my car, I discovered that mine was one in a line of 8, yes EIGHT cars that were broken into. The other car owners and I called the police. We waited for hours and nobody from the local precinct came. An off duty officer from another jurisdiction saw all of the upset car owners and came to check on us. When he found out what happened, he plainly told us that there was nothing the NYPD was going to do about it, that they likely lied to us when they said they were on their way and that the best thing we could do for ourselves was to accept our losses and move on.

    This is just one anecdote about one afternoon where 8 crimes were never reported. It doesn't say one way or the other whether underreporting is getting better or worse. What it does do, at least for me, is illustrate just how much the reality of crime is embedded into the culture of NYC. Like potholes and train delays, you just have to expect that here and there you're going to get a little roughed up, a little vandalized, and a little robbed if not worse. The police have better things to do, so just get over it and move on.
     
  16. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Johann, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say, "Oh, let's go out for Canadian tonight!" There might be a business opportunity there.
     
  17. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    There was a restaurant in Rockville, Maryland many years ago that had a Canadian theme, with decorations of Mounties, moose, and stereotypical things like that. I don't remember the name now and I don't believe it's still in business.

    Besides, other than poutine, Nanaimo bars, and butter tarts, I'm not sure what's truly unique to Canadian cuisine?
     
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  18. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Busted, by gosh!
     
  19. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Poutine is a viable dish to organize a restaurant or stand or truck around: a poutinerie.

    Traditional French Canadian cuisine like tourtières (meat pies).

    Chinese Canadian cuisine has scratched together some absolute gems including ginger beef and fried macaroni.
     
  20. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Poutine...gravy over fried cheese curds, right? Who, outside of French Canada, would eat it?
     

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