NYC homeowner arrested after standoff with squatters who illegally took over her $1 million property

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    NYC homeowner arrested after standoff with squatters who illegally took over her $1 million property.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nyc-homeowner-arrested-standoff-squatters-194413776.html

    People should immediately install alarm systems and have authorities involved, also maybe temporary hire security service?
    File legal eviction order with the court, follow the law.


    Why is this happening in the first place? Liberal policies that protect thieves,
     
  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    "Under New York City law, a person can claim squatters' rights if they have lived in a home for more than 30 days."

    That's completely insane.

    I'm with Lerner on this one.
     
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  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Have a Squatter? Who you gona call? SquatterBuster!
    ‘Squatter buster’/hunter: For a price, this California man will rid your home of ‘unwanted guests’
    Flash Shelton, 57, has made a career out of his singular talent for “squeezing out squatters.”

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/squatter-hunter-price-california-man-102300149.html

    The California native, who identifies as an “anti-squatter activist, squatter hunter, squatter remover,” says he just does whatever he has to to help people get squatters out of their homes. And sometimes that means using these “unwanted guests’” own strategies against them.


    Turning it back on the squatter


     
  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I like that! Solution that just sparkles in its simplicity. Not saying it might not get messy. He's a brave man. I'm just saying that the logic in the solution is very simple.
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

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  6. Suss

    Suss Active Member

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  7. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Two things: First, don't be an absentee landowner. That's true wherever you are. Second, we aren’t talking about ownership. The "squatters" claim to be "tenants". The police don't want to adjudicate landlord/tenant disputes. They want a court order to evict.

    Same thing happens here except that our courts are able to keep up with the caseload. I was able to issue a writ within days. NYC's Housing Court is notoriously underfunded but that's not the fault of the law.
     
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  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Thanks, this is good advise.

    For the Police, are they free to decide the policy how to treat something like trespassing? I understand that tenant can be abused by landlord as trespasser so there are protections.
    But in case of underfunded courts maybe the police policies need revision on city by city case?
     
  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Squatters burned New York home while wreaking havoc on 'hardworking families,' officials say

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/squatters-burned-york-home-while-202202037.html

     
  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Flash Shelton? I know that name. Pretty sure I've got a couple of Flash Shelton comics in the collection....
     
  11. Suss

    Suss Active Member

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  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Six months? A cakewalk! C'mon, Suss. Let's go burn down a couple of degree mills! :)
     
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  13. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    That's why they can't reduce the crime in NY.
    There is no sufficient deterrence.
     
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  14. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Here's the true facts instead of your false talking points.

    NYPD Announces January 2024 Citywide Crime Statistics
    quote:
    Continued declines across most major crime categories prevailed during January
    2024, compared to the first month of last year, and included substantial drops in murder, rape, burglary, and felony assault. And for the second month in a row, the number of vehicles stolen in New York City was reduced by at least 3.8%
    https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/p00099/nypd-january-2024-citywide-crime-statistics
     
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  15. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    There's actual research on this...jail time neither deters nor rehabilitates.
     
  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I'm surprised to learn that. I thought the opportunity to learn something that would make a living, would be encouragement not to re-offend. Some ex-cons are proud of what they learned in jail. I remember, more than 55 years ago, meeting a man who was doing well, making very good money as a welder. He told me quite proudly, with a smile - "Know where I learned welding? In jail."

    I guess it's not the same for everybody. Maybe former degree-mill operators, released from jail, would just start "The Almeda School of Welding" or something similarly bogus..
     
  17. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member


    This is very true. But slightly more complicated, of course. Long prison sentences does not deter crime more than short jail time is the most pronounced finding in the research on this. As a counter example, some cities have eliminated eliminated arresting people for "petty" shoplifting. Say under $900 and so the crooks have gotten wise to this and sometimes take advantage.

    Research Shows That Long Prison Sentences Don’t Actually Improve Safety
    https://www.vera.org/news/research-shows-that-long-prison-sentences-dont-actually-improve-safety

    I note that Vera news rating is HIGH https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vera-files/

    Note: I didn't look up rehabilitation studies but would expect that to be verifiable as well.
     
  18. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Yes, that is a definite problem.
     
  19. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Reading this info makes me scrutch my head.
    I have no doubt police efforts are there, but its the policies that are not protecting sufficiently the homeowners.
    It's seems to me the statistics are out of touch with residents sentiments. Technical vs practical.

    But this is not an area of expertise to me so I will not argue.
    In disbelief.
     
  20. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    $900, huh? So - dang, no "free" Italian suits for me. "Say, which rack do you keep the best stuff on, from Bangladesh?" :)
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2024

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