To read many of the posts here lately, it would appear as though the Oregon folks were the "in the know" group when it comes to degree mills. How about some some commentary on how they must now no longer be a Mill since they are off the authoritative Oregon list. I mean, one way or the other. So, if Oregon ends up accepting them, does that mean we can all go back to bed, or do we wait or the next "clear proof" to show us the way. Moths to a flame sometimes. I'm as suspect as the next guy over the Sheila Danzig/MIGS association, but there can be an awful lot of mob mentality in this group.