Not everyone is suited for college

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Kizmet, Feb 16, 2013.

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  1. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    The sources you mention would be of great value to readers on this board facing the same distinctions, especially since what you're saying runs counter to the research and anecdotes we know of. Please share them.
    This is a different distinction that you made earlier, and one that is extremely valuable. You have checked out the situation for you and have found that pursuing a degree with alternative accreditation will work for you. It would be good advice to suggest that others considering similar decisions make this determination for themselves, too.

    Let's also remember that, when making a decision about a taking a degree, one should consider both one's current and future needs. What might be useful and acceptable in one's current situation may not be in the future.
     
  2. pfelectronicstech

    pfelectronicstech New Member

    Again I'm not getting into an argument over this old RA vs NA. Everyone do their own research. In the field I want to go into, it seems be A-OK. 2 employers even mentioned that CIE-WC is a respected school in the industry. That is all I have, please do your own research.
     
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Oh, I have. And it involved a lot more than a couple of inquiries to employers. It was an experiment to see (a) how relatively acceptable degrees from schools with different forms of recognition were to employers and (b) an experiment to see how the dependent variable (acceptability for employment) changed with the introduction of an independent variable--a description of each of those forms of recognition. And I got 278 HR professionals to go through a very difficult survey (more than 1,000 started but did not finish).

    Yes, do your own research.

    I just wanted to make the distinction clear that you blurred. In the same post you said (a) employers don't care as long as the accreditor is recognized by the DOE. This is wrong. Then you said (b) that what you were considering was right for you, which is certainly reasonable.
     
  4. pfelectronicstech

    pfelectronicstech New Member

    Don't forget I'm not studying to be a lawyer, I'm studying a trade. I'm studying Industrial electronics and electrical maintenance technology. DETC schools seem very good with these types of educations. For the most part in this type of career, employers just want to know you have training in the area. That is the impression I got from 4 different employers in the state I live in. two of those mentioned CIE-WC as a good and credible education. That shocked me that they #1 knew who that school was and #2 that they commented on the school as being a good source for this type of education. That almost made me enroll but I went back to Penn Foster in the end for different reasons.
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    The flexibility of the system here is that it suits everybody needs.

    I don't call leaving college early a drooping out.

    There are many exit points in College and re entry points as well.

    The life journey is like a train ride, or a bus ride you get in to day care, kinder garden, pre-school, then you go on to elementary and middle school, high school.
    It takes you further.

    Then you go to some work, job or trade school or aq combination of work and college, institute or university.

    As you go you deal with socio-economic and other issues as they apply to you at that time.

    The reality is that things do change. When you have people go in to Nursing because it seems to be a better field during slow or bad economy and that in Nursing the unemployment % is low.

    In the past a Nurse RN with AS degree was in demand and BS was a plus.
    Today RN with AS can't find a good job, she needs BSN and RN to get in to door, compete for RN jobs.

    As far as trade jobs such as Electronics or Electrician.
    Apprentice rout is desirable. Schools like CIE-WC offer structured way to work and earn certificate, certificates, AS degree, and Bachelors degree all wile working.

    In Germany they have awesome Apprentice programs. The Technician in Germany is highly respected profession.
    In order to become state certified one needs to complete Apprenticeship of 3.5 years
    and 2 years of technical college. Followed by passage of State Exams.
    Only then one can become a state-certified Technician. a Level 6 on DQF and EQF.
    EU Directive recognized profession.

    In USA we have great system that allows individual progression at any time of their life.

    My friend Mart just now at age 65 opening a Chiropractic Office.
    He changed his career 3 times.
    He was an Artist.
    Then got his MSc in Computer Science and was Professional in High Tech industries for long time.

    At age 60+ he decided to become chiropractor.

    My uncle Greg went from being a biker and drummer in a successful San Farn band to
    MD.
    Good bless USA , freedom.
     
  6. BobbyJim

    BobbyJim New Member

    I like your outlook!

    For those not familiar with EQF - a simple overview: European Qualifications Framework - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I’d like to see a similar system in North America. It might lead to more portability of qualifications/credentials.
     

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