Neo-Nazi Groups Conduct Public Protest

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The cops should have allowed the crowd to exercise their rights and de-robe the brave idiots. Can't take Cletus or Joe Bob Jim too seriously as they run down the street in their BVD's. A beer gut and skids don't instill fear, as much as cheer.

Ted- Not just Democrats, politicians in general. Although, we could start with Dems. afore us'ins.

 

This is not a political discussion. Democrats and Republicans have nothing to do with Neo-Nazi ideology.

It is the red-neck white supremacy movement that has initiated this counter productive rally.

The public displays of the Neo-Nazi groups in Ohio really accomplish nothing even if you feel they have a right to conduct displays of power.

This type of rally doesn't increase their numbers or benefit them in any way. In fact, it is negative PR for the groups.

 

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Multi-Laser,
I have no idea what you are talking about, and obviously neither do you. I made a jocular response to Ted, which is none of your business. I also made light of the hate mongers because I think they are ignorant asses. I guess your Lithium supply is running low? So, go take a jump. Maybe you will land on your other self, and prove justice exists.
Have a Nice Day

P.S. The crowd I was referring to, were the citizens having to listen to the garbage. But while phasing in and out of this dimension you failed to read what was written.

Beam them up Scotty!

 

Clay,

I was not necessarily making a statement directed at you. It was general statement to suggest, as the person who started this thread, that it is not the intended focus of this topic to become a political discussion. The discussion started to lean that way if you admit it or not.

Thank you for sharing your mutual respect for others. You have reflected your true nature.

 

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I cannot communicate with y'all anymore. I got spanked. But I will state that the thread starter owns nothing, especially others' ideas. And to whom were you directing your whatyamacallit, if not I? Seems pretty direct to me. I'll play in my sandbox, if you stay in both of yours.
Heb een goede dag

 

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You shouldn't take them so lightly. If the American Nazi Party were truly comprised of dumb red-necks, then it would be easy to laugh them off. In fact, they're a very well organized group with some very intelligent people in leadership posts, which is what makes them dangerous.

 

Agreed

I did a six month study on the Klan and could write pages on the activities of the KKK, CSA, AN and PC. So, rather than bore those more knowledgeable, I toss in some humor. Just as you have in prior posts. I don't take anything lightly, I make light of it. My coping mechanism.

 

There will always be racists--in my opinion the baest way to handle them is not to give them the attention they so want.

 

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This is very true because a number of ex-military officers are involved with them. Mostly these are disgrunled ex-military personnel with an axe to grind--demotions, disciplinary actions, etc.

And, unfortuantely, from some research I did a number of years ago, ex-police officers and current and ex-ministers are among the ranks.

 

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Actually, there are current military, LE, and ministers involved. Additionally, there are several multi-millionaires, corporate officers, and a bunch of underlings working in areas giving them access to classified information and records of members.

These scum can delete records and manipulate the system. So, we are dealing with bad-asses. The world is full of bad-asses. You can report every news article written, as if we don't read, or you can keep your cards close and spit on those choosing to display their trash. They are American terrorists looking for attention to create fear among us. And some of you are playing their game, with their ball.


If I can have a brief moment to laugh at the situation and the crap I've done, I'll do it. If It offends you, tough. I don't fear these punks and refuse to allow them more than a chuckle. They are on a short leash. If you want to hide under your bed and whine, go ahead. They've won as far as you are concerned.

 

Sentiments heartily shared, Bruce, Clay (most recent post, first para.), and Jimmy.

Ted, shame.

 

I don't really think that the American Nazi's are a serious threat to anyone. It's hard to think of any group in this country that's less popular or more universally reviled. They kind of seem like Satanists to me, a group that intentionally sets out to be contrary, to be bad, to rub society's nose in it.

I think that the real dangers are going to be the groups that are attractive to large numbers of people, not repulsive. The scary ones are the idealistic ones, the utopian ones, the one's that make the crowd feel self-righteous as they destroy whatever obstacles stand in the way of their vision of a cleansed and perfect world.

That's how Hitler and Mussolini seemed to millions of people in the 1930's. It's how Marx, Lenin and Mao seemed to millions of people as well (including a troublingly large number of intellectuals right up to our own time).

People didn't cheer the Fuhrer because they wanted to be contrary. They cheered him because they thought that he was good. Your university professor wasn't a Marxist because he wanted to be outrageous, he was a Marxist because to him it was the path to a better world.

In these opening years of a new millenium, I don't know where the next new craziness will come from, only that it will come. The contemporary Islamic fundamentalist revival seems to be the strongest contender on the world stage, but it doesn't have very much drawing power beyond Muslim communities. The corresponding Christian medievalism is probably too fundamentally out of tune with the Zeitgeist of the modern global age to get the necessary traction. Marxism is suddenly passe, scientific rationalism is too abstract and cerebral to become a mass movement, and about the only global ideology that's growing these days is trade and commerce.

 

Christian mediaevalism

When I sing high mass I unplug the Zeitgeist in the church (next to the stereo).
Nobody cares if I'm in tune or not.
And here in the snow belt traction is merely a Platonic idea.

 

Surely you're kidding. Perhaps you should be black or gay or Jewish for one day and live in a vicinity of American Nazi demonstrations.

You don't consider the following as threats to anyone?:

• 
  Adam Daniel Jacobs, 28, a member of the neo-Nazi Creativity Movement, was sentenced to five years in prison for beating his roommate.
  
  Fliers from the neo-Nazi National Alliance were left on the driveways of several residents, including a mixed-race couple.
  
  Jacob Albert Laskey, 25; Gabriel Doyle Laskey, 20; and Gerald Anthony Poundstone, 27, were all charged with conspiracy to violate civil rights after they allegedly threw rocks engraved with Nazi symbols through the window of a synagogue during service.
  
  Swastikas and obscenities were burned into the lawn of a Jewish family's home.

And you don't think American Nazi's don't believe they could bring about a better world where Jews, blacks, gays, Hispanics, and "race-mixing" are no longer part of American culture?

Bill,

I lived in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Georgia. I witnessed American Nazi demonstrations and I can tell you first hand, these are dangerous, very dangerous people.

 

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Makes you wonder what all those years of conditioning to respect authority and not question mythical values and beliefs does for someone, ultimately..... doesn't it?

I mean, when people are trained from birth to never think outside the box, eventually they can wind up outside the very box that begat them, constantly looking back at it and attempting to make it even more restrictive, even less free, even more constraining than the small-minded little worlds they came from.

Thank God for liberal thought.....

 

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And yet we can see historically that one of the most mythical-questioning, anti-authority, outside the box thinking leaders of the twentieth century, Chairman Mao, was also one of it's most evil.

These things are, I fear, significantly more complex than can be addressed through mere political categories.

Peace,

Matt

 

What exactly am I to be shamed for?

 

Nazi Video

I don't know if you can say that they are not worthy of being acknowledged as a serious threat.

The following video doesn't depict them as the Campfire Girls.

http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=8539

 

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I have always been troubled that in the '50's-'90's, many Democrats were friendly to the left-leaning dictators and many Republicans were friendly to the right-leaning dictators.

A dictator is a dictator is a dictator, whether fascist or communist (authoritarian or totalitarian).

Yes, Matt, leftist rulers have been brutal throughout history:

Joseph Stalin killed 20 million Soviet citizens; Mao Tse-tung killed 34 to 62 million Chinese; and Pol Pot killed more than 1.7 million of his own people.

 

I have heard better singing out of drunks at a karokee bar.