NCU was More Rigorous than California State University

(bold is mine)

Doesn't look like they require an intelligence test to allow people to post on those college review boards.

 

I looked at some of the RipOff report information, not for NCU but in general, and it look like a place for anyone to complain. I would assume you can put in just about any business and find issues. I found one for a digital camera that it was "difficult to use and broke". While it is true that this may be seen as the pulse of the customer, I would not put much stock in this website.

 

This is also because the open admissions policy of the school. Many of these students do not have the skills nor the capacity to do graduate study and then blame the school for their failure.

I was surprised to see so many ignorant comments from NCU students such as the remark that NCU was AACSB accredited.

Capella is another one with many negative discussions, there was at one point a site called "Capellasucks.com".

Again, there is no reason to complain about the school. If you don't like the school, do not take courses there. If you don't like their graduates, don't hire them or take courses with professors from degrees from NCU.

If a student spends a lots of money on a PhD and then complains that he or she did not get a job because the school was not AACSB accredited, he or she should have done his or her homework before spending time and effort there.

 

Agreed. What cracks me up on those sites are the people who write scathing comments about a school kicking them out and yet their post is full of spelling and grammar mistakes. No wonder they bombed out of school, yet they blame the school.

 

I'm not sure folks whose web posts are laden with grammatical or spelling errors should be criticizing (let alone critiquing) institutions of higher learning. The poor writing simply undermines their credibility. But then, that's just my take.

 

Anyone with time and money can register a domain and publish a website to air their complaints about anything and everything, with no oversight whatsoever.

DLTruth anyone?

 

bam....lol

 

“...when two opposite points of view are expressed with equal intensity, the truth does not necessarily lie exactly halfway between them. It is possible for one side to be simply wrong.”Richard Dawkins
In the phd-accounting at NCU, the work that I did was at the lower level undergraduate difficulty. I do not need perfect grammar to come to this conclusion. I will encourage everyone who has an accounting background to go right now and review the syllabus for the phd accounting. It is a basic community college program. Go and see for yourself. Do not take my word for it.
It is good to see that NCU is waging a public relationship battle, for the good of its graduates I hope NCU succeed. I still will not recommend anyone to attend NCU. This is second hand information from degeeinfo one graduate had to do everything his/her advisor said to do in order to graduated. What original work/idea?Another student decided to stick with his principles and was booted from the program.
Is NCU a better school than CSU? We may need to call in the experts.

 

Okydd,

To be fair, I think that NCU's market is not really for people like yourself that already has a strong knowledge about a particular subject and wants to become a heavy researcher in a particular area.
Most of their course work looks more hands on and not so research oriented.

I think your expectations were too high as you are already an expert in accounting. The PhD or DBA in accounting is designed for people with little background in accounting that would want to earn the extra credits in order to qualify to teach accounting at the undergraduate level.

In general, I don't think any of these online programs from online schools are designed to compete with those offered by major research Universities. They seem to be more designed for the working professional that wants to expand knowledge in particular field but not so interested in doing heavy research.

I think part of the issue are expectations. Some people might have higher expectations while others lower based on their previous background. NCU is a business so programs are designed to attract a large amount of students and not only a very small niche market of people wanting to become researchers.


I believe that NCU catalogs should have clear objectives and career prospects for graduates. For example, Jones International University that is another virtual school offers an online DBA states in its catalog that the program is meant to train people interested in corporate training, consulting or careers as community college teachers or adjuncts. If a prospect student reads this, it should not expect high level or heavy research oriented courses.

I believe expectations are part of the problem for dissapointed students.

 

I agree with RFValve. I actually went through the initial accounting course at NCU and also did it at Cal State Long Beach. I found them to be roughly equal. Neither one was all that difficult.

 

I wish this site had a like button. Sometimes they annoy me but I do like this comment.
I always consider the source and if I see someone who can barely string together a sentence bash a university, I move to the next review. I do the same thing with reviews on compusa.com too.

 

The pot is calling the kettle black. My grammar is bad. However, I am not going to waste anymore time to study grammer's syntax. However, before you criticized others' sentence structure you need to work on your own sentences. Anyway, there a few errors you should have corrected before you posted, seeing that you can string a sentence together. Ignorance is bliss.

 

I don't think anyone was criticizing you. He was talking about people who post on those college rating websites and I'm the one who brought it up. You ever read some of the duds on those sites? Some of them are buffoons.

 

Hay, eye take that personel!

 

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Picking on the grammar is the oldest trick in the book to discredit a post.
By reading some posts, you might discover some real concerns that can serve as warning to some prospect students.

From the negative posts, I gathered that many are related to false expectations. As a prospect student, I think is important to do some homework before enrolling.

For instance, I wouldn't enroll in a program that does not publish statistics about the placement rate, type of jobs that graduates hold, graduation rates, number of students in program, salaries, etc.

NCU's PhD costs close to 50K and takes about 5 years to complete, it is a consideble amount of money and time and a student you should make sure that it will serve your purpose and future goals.

 

This school bad. Me no like. School cost much. Head hurt. Teacher mean. Profit bad.

 

Here is an example of a review I would not trust. It is about Strayer.

There has to be a law against the bad treatment and the unprofessional treatment at this school and they should not be allow to be open their doors.

We as students pay so much money to go there and they treat us like second class citizen as they don't know that we pay their salary and in return, bad instructors, bad service from their other staff as well.

They can not keep your records correctly as anything you need, you account is on HOLD for no reason and you have to continue calling to straighten it out.

They falsely accuse their students for cheating due to unprofessional professors. You request for official transcripts, your account is on HOLD; you put in for your degrees - your account is on HOLD, for what? No reason at all, its always a error on their part.

I wish that I can file a lawsuit against Strayer University but I just don't know where to start. Wish that someone can help me with this - I truly appreciate it.

 

Then what you have is a masters program, not a doctoral program and it should be advertised as such, especially if it's marketed as a "Ph.D". I have a little more tolerance for a DBA program structured this way, but it still raises flags.

 

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Interesting point. I never considered that before. If you find a great deal of negative reviews on one of those sites and many of the individuals obviously have trouble with basic spelling and grammar, it might lead you to conclude that the school is marketing to individuals who have no business enrolling in a graduate degree program. Possibly, the school is engaging in the practice of what we might call "sub-prime student lending" where they encourage poor, illiterate people to get student loans and enroll when it's obvious they will never make it in the program.

That would make an interesting study; look on those websites for reviews of schools that currently have action taken against them for abusive enrollment practices to see if there is an elevated amount of illiterate negative feedback.