Move to Canada

And of course, Democratic proposals in the US mean less than nothing at this point.

 

Yeah. Feel safe yet? Freedom defended?

 

Haha, well, the smugness can only go so far, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tpW1m-8yVQ

 

Not true. That penalty expired when Rob did; it's not nearly as fun to make fun of a person once he dies of cancer. Plus, as much of a disaster as the guy was, he's remembered for his dedication to fixing little guys' problems, and his "respect the taxpayer" mantra, however simplistic, was a sincerely held belief. Unlike a cruel prank like "drain the swamp".
Look, I'm fully aware of what the Ford election means. His voters are basically Trump voters, and they propelled him to victory in supposedly a diversity nirvana of Toronto. Canadians do not have a real REASON for smugness, just because major party machines prevent Trump-like PM (they would also prevent Obama). But that never stopped anyone as long as there's an EXCUSE for smugness. And you just gave us the best one.

I didn't watch the video, but, come on here. Unless you're a Conservative partisan, you can't really believe Justin the Boy Wonder is anywhere near as embarrassing as Trump. The guy is known to put his foot in his mouth on occasion, but he's generally an agreeable politician. Plus, his Cabinet functions like you would expect from a Liberal one: a center-left bunch of generally competent establishment types. For example, I like how they tweak the independent immigration scheme; Con overhaul was a disaster. Justin Trudeau might not be a big policy mind, but he has a decent team and he trusts it. And I was duly impressed with how the man stuck to his guns on hijab and deficit spending issues during the campaign, even though polls showed both positions were not popular.

 

I'm far from a Conservative partisan and, to be fair on both sides, Trump hasn't even assumed office yet so it is a bit difficult to make any substantive comparisons.

That being said, I still favor the WWE heel over Troo-lander.

 

What socially unacceptable acts Trump do?

 

Depends. Do you think tweeting wildly untrue statements is unacceptable? How about rewarding big donors with plush posts in the Cabinet? "Mentioning" business permit issues while talking to foreign leaders? Encouraging conspiracy theorists?
It's funny how the same people who were in knots over that fellow with unpaid vanity board appointment at the State Department or the "basket of deplorables" gaffe just don't see anything wrong in what the Golden Calf is doing now.

 

You mean like the comment to Медве́дев "I'll have more flexibility after election"... Looking at historically what both parties have done in the US, all of that is acceptable.

The more I dig into this, the embarrassment is not about the President-Elect. It is about the shellacking the establishment and her cohort, the media got. The unimaginable pain of realization that the unwashed masses, the fodder picked something else than what they were told to pick. We all know what happened after "qu'ils mangent de la brioche"...

 

RAM, my friend, you are right. But even you have no idea of the extent. Seeing as you are a religious man, I'm sure you know exactly who is making work for my idle hands...somebody has to! :firedevil: :smile:

J.

PS - "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche." Suivi par "Madame Guillotine." Медве́дев - both preceded and followed by Владимир Путин An example of Музыкальные стулья ?

 

OK, I see. We're all doomed.

The notion that things like these don't matter as long as The Leader is "on OUR side" is very familiar. It's basically at the core of Putinism. U.S. was the last bulwark against this thinking, and now it anointed it. With a helping of racism on the side. We. Are. All. Doomed.

 

Not "foibles". The guy flat out denies that rules even apply to them, and it makes him MORE popular (because "strength" and "leadership"). Exactly what lackeys (including Trump) admire about Putin. Also, "liberal media" could not stop yapping about Clinton's "conflicts of interest" and "potential appearances of something improper". In Trump's case, total silence from the right.
...in the latest news: Vlad's business partner from Exxon is now a Secretary of State designate. Name a precedent for this if you can.

 

I would expect a bit more creativity, reading your posts. Did you forget misogynist, bigots, homophones, and xenophobes? ("For while I was passing through and examining the objects of your worship, I also found an altar with this inscription, 'TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.'")

But away with the jests. For every point were one party failed to hold their own to higher ethics, I can find one the opposing side doing the same.

 

I mean, Trudeau is probably into some similar stuff, whether it is explicitly state or not:

Trudeau attended cash-for-access fundraiser with Chinese billionaires - The Globe and Mail

 

"Probably"? "Similar"? Sorry, but unless Trudeau owns a company that is building a skyscraper in China it's not similar, and it is vanishingly improbable.
Spelling it out (taking one of the LEAST controversial examples): Linda McMahon donated $6mil to Trump's campaign; she and Vince also donated $5mil to Trump Foundation over the years. He named her to head the SBA. They're friends and fellow WWE cast members (help me out here: were they ever in the same episode? That would be awesome!). Question: what would you say if Hillary did something comparable? I seem to remember that when a Clinton Foundation donor was named a member of unpaid advisory board running nothing, Trump campaign and supporters cried bloody murder. Crooked Donald? No? Why?

 

You and I both know how counter-productive that is.
What happened lately? Elites always misbehaved, people knew that, yet still managed to believe in, you know, America. I can tell with confidence that globally speaking, USA is by far not in worst shape. Yet the masses behave remarkably like they lived through a major catastrophe (WWI, fall of the USSR, that sort of thing).

In Ukraine in 2010, disillusioned masses (with the help from Russia and relatively limited election fraud) elected another Paul Manafort's client. Then they had to overthrow him, resulting in 100 people killed on the streets and sparkling a war that took about 5000 lives (to date). These cheap thrills are way too expensive, man.

 

Parties, perhaps. But Trump trumps them all.
Refresh my memory: what is it you didn't like about Hillary so much? It can't be "corruption" since "everyone's doing it". It can't be policies, because you can not be sure the Random Generator in Chief won't do the same or worse on any file. Hmmm?