MIGS: The Sequel

Discussion in 'The Monterrey Institute for Graduate Studies' started by Guest, Aug 5, 2001.

  1. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I hope you let MIGS know about your decision in the traditional fashion. Showing up in person at the Texas or Florida office on September 31 (perhaps February 30 would also work) to tell them that you won't be enrolling, otherwise I'm afraid that you'll have to enroll at MIGS after all. [​IMG]
  2. Guest

    Guest Guest

    They recognize it, promote it and validate it. Potch's association with GST is listed in their catalog and on the website. GST makes if very clear that it is not a degree granting institution, all degrees awarded are Potch degrees.

  3. DWCox

    DWCox member

    Rich: I agree with Timmy your continued MIGS/CEU comments look like you have an axe to grind. Trust me, even if you never post another MIGS comment/opinion there will never be a shortage of posters on this NG willing to share their MIGS/CEUopinion. Pass the torch!


    Wes Cox who has no connection to MIGS/CEU
  4. Ike

    Ike New Member

    I beg to disagree. In as much as Rich may still harbor some anger for MIGS, which is understandable, I don't think that he is on a vendetta mission. If Rich has posted 600 times on this board, more than a third were likely in defense of MIGS/CEU. Up till now, I believe that all Rich's posts on MIGS are based on facts. They are definitely not based on conjecture. He has been there and he understands MIGS operation more than any other real person that posts on this board. Yes, I mean "real persons", because some people don't post on this board with their real names.

  5. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    Actually, I believe that Serna's less-than-wonderful accusation was that the four individuals appeared, together, at BOTH the Texas and Florida locations on the SAME DAY.

    Particularly amusing since,

    (a) Prior to the filing of Serna's lawsuit, there was absolutely no mention *anywhere* of MIGS Texas location, and

    (b) Conveniently, Serna's law office (as far as I know, the only alleged "location" of MIGS outside of Florida) is in Texas, where he is admitted to the bar.

    Of course, Serna's being in Texas wouldn't have anything at all to do with why Levicoff was sued there, now would it?

    What a joke.
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Wes, I've been outspoken about issues regarding nontraditional higher education for more than two decades. This is the first time, however, I've had first-hand knowledge of a very bad school. If their shills want to hawk their product on this or any other board, then I'm going to answer it. Nothing I've said is untrue, or even very opinionated. The facts speak so loudly, if they're given a chance to be heard. As long as shills like these hype MIGS, I and others will answer in kind. This isn't a vendetta. If they go away, I'll have nothing more to say. But everytime they lie regarding MIGS, I'll answer.

    Rich Douglas
  7. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    What's more, though these mysterious four claimed that Levicoff's posts on AED had dissuaded them from enrolling at MIGS, none of them had ever posted on AED according to dejanews.

    And when a student decides not to enroll in a program, doesn't he or she simply fail to return the forms? Since when do students all decide to simultaneously visit a law office that had no known connection to MIGS and swear out depositions against the person whose word they allegedly trusted?
  8. Peter French

    Peter French member

    For a hell of a long time YOU were the biggest shill as you call it, and even Levicoff crapped on you from a great height, and you endured it.

    Now it has gone from the best place on earth to the worst - that is according to you. Don't you realise that, that alone, makes people wonder about you and your opinions?

    It didn't work out for you - you didn't get you own way - you couldn't erxtract those additional advanced standings you wanted to hawk around the group you have now chosen - get over it son ... build a bridge or you will fall down the chasm you are creating.

    And get a life....

    Peter French
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Ahh, but this is a part of it. See, I've been studying this field for the last two-plus decades. I'm a doctoral candidate at an RA school in this very field. Sorry if the truth about MIGS hurts. I notice you continue to "contribute," despite your promises to the contrary.

    Funny, but even after all of the cataloging of MIGS's bad actions, one might still be able to get a properly issued doctorate from the CEU. Maybe.

    Rich Douglas
  10. gila

    gila New Member

    I have no connection to any school, no axe to grind, no anger, no support, and no agenda, but I can't help but wonder how much extra business MIGS gets because you have a separate folder for them on the main page of this board.
  11. Guest

    Guest Guest

  12. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    If *anyone* is stupid enough to enroll in MIGS after reading all of the threads here, then they *deserve* to get fleeced.

    MIGS/CEU has more baggage, more less-than-wonderful behavior, and more actions that, without it's connection with CEU would, without question, be prima facie evidence of a typical degree mill.*

    Given the facts and the actions of MIGS officials, described here and elsewhere, anyone who would still go for a MIGS/CEU degree would definitely need to have their head examined.

    *Since the CEU is most definitely a legitimate Mexican school (albeit, one that has never issued a doctorate), MIGS/CEU is probably not a degree mill in the classic sense, although it also most definitely meets a significant number of the criteria defined by Steve Levicoff in describing degree mills.

    However, we may also have our first documented incidence of "rented accreditation", based on the information that some have obtained from CEU staffers. If true, I suspect that once word gets out, the MIGS/CEU degree will have about as much standing as, oh, Trinity Indiana, with it's "Liverpool accreditation"
  13. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    There is nothing wrong with that. If people choose to pursue a degree through MIGS, that's their business. But they should do so knowing the facts. Trying to hide them won't stop people from doing what they're going to do.

    Rich Douglas
  14. DWCox

    DWCox member

    Rich: I don't dispute that what your report is your truthfull opinion based on your firsthand knowledge and I personally don't think that you are "out to get" CEU/MIGS. I am just saying that I think, at minimum the potential exists for other posters/members to think otherwise.

    If I were you, I don't think I would waste my time and energy anymore but instead direct my effort on that doctorate degree, I'm quite sure you'll gain in the relative near future.
  15. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    Of course with all the voices suddenly telling Rich to shut up about MIGS, at minimum the potential exists for other posters/members to think that the intention could be to silence critical opinion.
  16. ponotoc2

    ponotoc2 New Member

    >>Funny, but even after all of the cataloging of MIGS's bad actions, one might still be able to get a properly issued doctorate from the CEU.

    Rich - I want to learn all I can about what MIGS / CEU is doing, after reading all the posts, all I get is negative vibes about the university but nothing concrete that I can use to compare apples to apples when going towards Charles Sturt and North Central - can someone tell me exactly what they've done that they shouldn't have - all I know so far is that their list of staff is not accurate, and they are not licensed in Florida and did not quit advertising like they were supposed to when notified.

    So, in a nutshell, can you list a few of the things that they've done or promised to do and didn't do - I want to compare apples to apples and even though I've applied at MIGS / CEU it's never too late to go elsewhere. Right now I'm considering Northcentral and Charles Sturt. Thank you, Mary
  17. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Bill was highly critical of much of what I had to say in support of the MIGS effort. While I'd like to think I was supporting an idea in spite of its execution, I can certainly see now that they are one and the same. That's why I left.

    But he never told me to shut up. He just disagreed with me. [​IMG]

    Rich Douglas, always willing to see more than one side of an issue, and to change his stance in the face of new evidence.
  18. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I'll be glad too. Call me. (You have my number.) It would be my pleasure to talk with you about all of this (in a supportive, non-acrimonious way). I really enjoyed our previous phone conversation.

    Rich Douglas

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