It Had to Happen - St Regis Quack

Thanks to Gregg DesElms for his informative analysis of the legal particulars of this situation. Appreciate your astute comments.

Cheers,
Tony Maranto

 

Well....since he offers second opinions the first thing he should advise his patients to do is to find a real physician!

 

Medical doctors don't require dissertations either. The purpose of this type of degree is not to "push back the frontiers" of academic knowledge. It is a much more immediate and some might argue practical goal. It is required to practice the craft.

For example, can it be argued that a DBA is required to practice a craft? not like a MD or a psychiatrist. Is the purpose to push back the frontiers of academic knowledge. I believe so. That would indicate that for it to be valid it would need to require a dissertation. In addition, it can be reasonably argued that for a doctorate to truly push back the frontiers of academic knowledge that the school would need to be part of the academic community. That is sharing knowledge with, exchanging papers, conducting seminars, making presentations, etc. Bill Dayson has proven with his Google search technique that this does occur with some unaccredited universities but we've not seen any similar evidence with CCU, for example. The examples that Bill found were highly specialized institutions.

 

OK, so it sounds like you are agreeing that just because a doctoral degree does not require a dissertation doesn't make it "dubious."

 

The thing that makes this guy's degree "dubious" is that it is from St. Regis University - that's true whether it is a doctorate, a master's degree, a bachelor's degree, and associate degree, or a certificate to shine shoes at the airport.

 

Mr Coates:

Don't be droll. I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you. You began by twisting my words. I'm not discussing this with you. This thread is about "Dr" Keefauver, his "exposer", and phony, dubious degrees. You want to discuss something else. Go start your own thread.

If you are trying to defend your own doctorate sans dissertation, do it openly, without trying to rope me into your enterprise. I might even agree with you (though I doubt it). I will not help you hide behind my words, since you began by wilfully distorting what I said.

 

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This guy is clearly misrepresenting or making a claim to be something that he is not. I think the purpose of this thread was to shed light on the dubious credentials that he claims to have from St. Regis University and the degree from Canterbury University. It really interests me that people would spend money on such phony degrees, and expect to pass them off as legitimate.

Uncle Janko, what can I say? I agree with you. I have always enjoyed reading your posts and you put much thought and wisdom in your discussions. Keep up the good work.

By the way, I think we need to really look at the total picture here. Perhaps, this Ph.D. = Piled Higher and Deeper. So, just to have that title... makes you feel important.

 

Oh my...

Looks like the good Doctor has updated his web page (as of August 8th) with the following link…

"ST. Regis University is rated #3 in the world in distance education at www.thedegree.com/graduate-schools.html"

Needless to say, I was surprised to hear that St. Regis is now ranked as the 3rd best distance education program in the world (right behind UofP and Capella)… now I feel so much better about his ability to dish out medical advice Give me strength.

Interest from this forum is definitely driving up traffic to his web site. His counter now registers 1374.

Good grief,
Tony

 

Re: Oh my...

It looks like as of September 20th, SRU is going to launch its new web site. Maybe they can include an accreditation clause that lists it as an internationally renown diploma mill (Bear's top ten diploma mills for 2004).

 

SRU quoted from Bears' Guide

Until recently the SRU site quoted from Bears' Guide... so why not?

Did you notice they're back to showing links to the not-the-real-embassy-site site?

G

 

whoops, somebody tattled!

Somebody must have tattled to the real Liberian Embassy: the "list of schools" is gone from the not-the-real-embassy-site site.

G

 

For the last several years the MOS codes have been consolidated. 12 series used to be Armor officers and 19 enlisted armor - now everyone is 19 series.

 

I stand corrected. Thanks for that information, jimnagrom! You can tell I've been out for awhile.

Cheers,
Adrienne

 

My comment Mr. Janko is that if this thread is about Keefauver and his dubious degrees from SRU then your reference to CCU is off topic and irrelevant. It appears to me that you have roped them into your enterprise (using your words). You seem to have been caught unawares by the sans dissertation concept for professional doctorates which perhaps prompted the indignant response to Rob's challenge.

 

The timing of your response is most interesting. Out of nowhere you post an irrelevant post in order to contest the relevancy of a rather old post by me? Come now. At whose behest are you posting, suddenly, on a thread to whose content your post contributes nothing, and whose sole purpose seems to be to pick a fight with me--which won't work, BTW?

This is all the reply you get.

 

I'm not sure what's interesting about the timing of my comment. I just happened to read the exchange and I don't live on this forum like some folks. Conspiracy? uh, no... but now that you mention it, your comment was a couple of weeks old although I am not aware there is a statute of limitations on such things. I'm not interested in picking a fight with you, just thought I'd let you know my thoughts. No reply is fine.

 

I decided to go back one week and count your posts. I counted 23 in the last 7 days, an average of 3.3 posts per day. I lead the league in numbers (I'm not sure about average), and I average 3.6 per day. Pretty close.

You may not live here, but you probably keep a few clothes in the closet.

(I really don't care how many times someone posts, but when someone makes what I consider a demeaning remark about frequent posting, it warrants a bit of looking.)

 

I appreciate your efforts in counting my posts, I haven't done that... but you are presenting selective statistics there Rich... if you are going to compare totals here you go... and yes I do have some clothes in the closet, but not exactly sure what the significance is and why you are making a counterpoint. Did you feel demeaned? Do you live on this forum? Just tossing stuff out, since I've got nothing better to do for a few minutes.

Rich Douglas Total Posts 4623, avg 3.60 per day
Rod Kirkland Total Posts 375, avg .38 per day

 

No, I didn't say I felt demeaned. I said your comment was demeaning. Just because I don't agree with it doesn't make it any less so.

This wasn't "selective." It was purposeful. I chose to look at the last week (instead of your overall history) because you said you'd missed the other comment because you don't "live" here. Fine, but you have this week, making your comment not only demeaning, but misleading. You've frequented the board quite a bit lately, as those connected to unaccredited schools often do when this category gets slammed. I don't blame you; I'd be defensive, too.

 

Your statistics were selective with a purpose, let's not play with words. But thanks for noticing. My background includes state approved and regionally accredited schools, some pretty well known traditionals. So, no need to be defensive. I'll generally fire torpedoes when a fat merchantman in convoy slips smugly across the bow.