Is Textila American University an accredited University?

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  1. Ebenezer Esau

    Ebenezer Esau New Member

    I don't think CAAM-HP itself is a legitimate body.

    How do you expect the universities to be fully accredited when you have the CAAMP-HP committee comprising of the competitor brands.

    When I now check the list of accredited Caribbean medical schools, it vivid that no university is completely accredited. It is either accredited with some conditions, accreditation denied / initial accreditation withdrawn and for few, the accreditation has expired and they haven't even replied for this.

    This brings in a greater doubt that on what factors that these universities were inspected. While an organizational body is formed, it should be independent and should not have representatives from the universities that are from medical schools.

    Only ECFMG is approval is required and you are absolutely fine to pursue in the medical schools in the universities in the Caribbean.

    And people presume that without CAAM-HP accreditation the degree is not valid. The degree is absolutely valid.
     
  2. Ebenezer Esau

    Ebenezer Esau New Member

    Hope you get my point
     
  3. Ebenezer Esau

    Ebenezer Esau New Member

    I agree with your point. CAAM- HP alone cannot decide the accreditation.

    I don't think CAAM-HP itself is a legitimate body.

    How do you expect the universities to be fully accredited when you have the CAAMP-HP committee comprising of the competitor brands.

    When I now check the list of accredited Caribbean medical schools, it vivid that no university is completely accredited. It is either accredited with some conditions, accreditation denied / initial accreditation withdrawn and for few, the accreditation has expired and they haven't even replied for this.

    This brings in a greater doubt that on what factors that these universities were inspected. While an organizational body is formed, it should be independent and should not have representatives from the universities that are from medical schools.

    Only ECFMG is approval is required and you are absolutely fine to pursue in the medical schools in the universities in the Caribbean.

    And people presume that without CAAM-HP accreditation the degree is not valid. The degree is absolutely valid.
     
  4. copper

    copper Active Member

    How many MD graduates of Texila are licensed and practicing Physicians and Surgeons in the country of Guyana? I ask this one question because if the country that charters this medical school allows the graduates to practice medicine within that country then that says everything! Otherwise it is just another commercial enterprise with no interest in the Guyana community!
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2019
  5. copper

    copper Active Member

    From the Medical Council of Guyana:
    "Caribbean Association of Medical Councils (CAMC) CAMC continues to be hindered by the fact that after 15 years, the intergovernmental agreement has not yet been legislated. Nonetheless, CAMC intends that every newly graduated physician in the region, who attends a CAAM-HP accredited Medical School should sit the CAMC licensing exams. This includes UWI graduates. Currently, Guyanese nationals and West Indian graduates of Cuban medical schools are the most successful groups of candidates sitting the CAMC exams. Non-native engIish speaking physicians will be required to sit an internationally recognized english competency examination before being eligible to sit CAMC exams. In 2023, ECFMG will only permit graduates of CAAM-HP accredited medical schools to sit the USMLE. The USA had expressed concern about the plethora of new medical schools mushrooming in the Caribbean. Currently, our Council locally recognizes graduates of UG, and the off-shore AISM and Greenheart Medical Schools who have passed CAMC, USMLE or PLAB. All off-shore medical schools in Guyana are urged to follow UG’s example and seek accreditation with CAAM-HP." University of Guyana (UG)

    http://www.medicalcouncil.org.gy/medcouncil/documents/Annual Reports/MCOG_Annual_Report.pdf

    http://www.medicalcouncil.org.gy/medcouncil/

    Unfortunately, unless Texila University Medical School seeks accreditation from CAAM-HP or another body acceptable to the Medical Council of Guyana, this will be a matter of great concern to prospective students!
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2019
  6. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I don't know about "everything" but it certainly means more than nothing. Also, I'm not sure you could say that it's a commercial enterprise with no interest in the Guyana community. It's as least as likely that it's the Guyana community that has no interest in this commercial enterprise.
     
  7. copper

    copper Active Member

    Did you read the followup I posted from the Medical Council of Guyana? High degree of probability there are no graduates practicing in Guyana which says a lot if not everything I need to know!
     
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly

    Then you think something that isn't so. Accreditation from CAAM-HP isn't required for a medical school in the West Indies to be legitimate, and ACCM accreditation is also common in the region, but that doesn't mean CAAM-HP itself is not legitimate.

    It's called peer accreditation. Those of us who actually work in higher ed know that it's quite common in the Americas and can work quite well.
     
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    The University of Leicester is ranked 167 in the world. Right up there with Alameda and Breyer State, I guess.

    Actually, even with the University of California, Santa Cruz, just ahead of Texas A&M and just behind the University of Rochester.

    Heriot-Watt is in the 301-350 block and Lancaster is 146.
     
  10. copper

    copper Active Member

    My thoughts on Texila University School of Medicine (SOM). I realize the school has other degree programs but I am limiting my comments to the medical school.

    1. Denied accreditation by CAAM-HP. comment: After research, we now know CAAM-HP accreditation is necessary to become a licensed Physician in the country of Guyana where the school is chartered. Denial of CAAM-HP would not have have been a great concern to me if it weren't a requirement of the Guyana Medical Council. Why? Because a sovereign nation's ability to train and license its own physicians outweighs the importance of an accreditation review by an independent accreditor and denial of such accreditation doesn't conclude the school is "substandard". As I mentioned before, many state sponsored medical schools do not want their medical graduates leaving for greener pastures in other countries!
    2. According to the Guyana Medical Council Texila SOM is an "offshore medical school" . comment: The school of medicine is operating with the blessing of the government more or less as a business entity and not a nationally state sponsored university. Hence, medical school accreditation by appropriate authorities is very important to establish the school meets a "level of standard" acceptable not only to the US ECFMG but also other global communities.
    3. Texila SOM is listed in the WDOMS as a medical school recognized by the country of Guyana. comment: Overall, this is good news but students need to be aware that 1. You will be unable to be licensed in Guyana, 2. The ECFMG will require in the near future that schools of medicine become "accredited" for acceptance of graduates into the ECFMG certification process, and 3. Will other countries follow suit and require an accreditation process before taking licensing exams?

    I am not disputing the fact that the medical school may have graduates licensed and practicing throughout the world. I am however particularly concerned that US students do their due diligence and know the risks associated with attending an offshore medical school that hasn't attained accreditation recognized by the ECFMG.
     
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2019
  11. Ebenezer Esau

    Ebenezer Esau New Member



    Texila SOM is accredited by ECFMG
     
  12. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    AEIOU . . . and sometimes Y
     
  13. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    Except that ECFMG isn't an accreditor, that's not its function.

    https://www.ecfmg.org/accreditation/2023-overview-accreditation-requirement.pdf

    https://www.ecfmg.org/resources/guidance-on-medical-school-selection.html

    In fact ECFMG says:

    "Be cautious of medical schools that list accreditation by ECFMG, the Foundation for Advancement of International Medical Education and Research (FAIMER), the World Directory of Medical Schools, the International Medical Education Directory (IMED), the World Federation for Medical Education (WFME), the Avicenna Directory or the World Health Organization (WHO), because these entities DO NOT accredit medical schools."

    It appears that starting next year (2020) the World Directory of Medical Schools is going to start listing whether medical schools are accredited by a recognized accreditor. That will probably have an impact on finding residency places and for subsequent hiring.

    Then in 2023, foreign medical graduates seeking a medical license in the United States will simply be required to be graduates of a medical school with recognized accreditation.
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2019
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  14. copper

    copper Active Member

    You obviously have a gross misunderstanding of the scope and mission of the ECFMG! The ECFMG does not "accredit" medical schools! Yes, currently the ECFMG will review graduates of the Texila SOM to put them on the path of being ECFMG certified which makes the graduate eligible for a US residency.

    2023
    https://www.ecfmg.org/accreditation/
     
  15. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    Ebenezer is clearly hoping to lend Texila some credibility by throwing acronyms at it.
     
  16. copper

    copper Active Member

    I see we have a redundant post with close to the same time stamp. I agree!
     
  17. copper

    copper Active Member

    If this is the same individual, a link to posts about TexilaU by an "Education Expert": https://www.quora.com/profile/Ebenezer-Esau
     
  18. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    The photograph on Quora seems to be of this guy. I doubt very much whether he's Ebenezer Esau though. Somebody just appears to be using his photo:

    https://perm.hse.ru/en/news/189916504.html

    https://www.montclair.edu/profilepages/view_profile.php?username=schwarzerd

    The photo from Quora without the cropping. (It appears to be the photo of the Russian talk. Same woman in the lower right, same image in the upper left above the speaker's right shoulder...)

    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-thumb-462026945-200-aqznoafwaycjzbptqyudoxjxeiwkolts.jpeg
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2019
  19. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I'm SHOCKED to find that Ebenezer is a fraud. We've been Scrooged!
     
  20. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Member

    What would you all think is better to get to become an adjunct with an already earned Masters degree in Education who wants to teach math at a community college? Should a person get a local or national graduate certificate (18 hours of MATH courses) or one of the foreign online PhDs in Education specializing in mathematics?
     

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