Is it necessary to lock a discussion

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussions' started by Phdtobe, Oct 16, 2016.

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  1. Jan

    Jan Member

    Prior to doing so, please THREAD the needle. My clothing is in tatters from the goading I'm receiving. :)
     
  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That's the point -- since you're nobody there's no way to judge what you say. You appeared from the ether with a clear determination to criticise IUGS and then NAB. Do you work for a competitor? Were you a student of theirs who got burned? Are you a white supremacist who hates countries that are full of black people? I'm not accusing you of any of those, obviously, I say that only to illustrate that there's no way to know what motivations a stranger may have for saying what he or she says. Conversely, my decade-long track record of participation here allows level-headed people to make a reasonable decision about how much to weigh my stated personal interest in the matter when evaluating the opinion I'm offering on it. I expect you will now offer some tortured logic that allows you to ignore the difference, but it's a big one.
     
  3. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    See? We're only on page two, and we're already halfway to a lockout of this thread.

    Ya gotta love it. :wavey:
     
  4. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Oh no, not again!
     
  5. Jan

    Jan Member

    Forester, when you comply with Kismet's request to stick to the topic instead of getting personal, as you do above with your hostile and provocative comments, I will respond in like kind. Your post above is merely heading for another collision, a direction that Kizmet rightly requested that we should avoid. Saavy?

    Btw, if you have substantive evidence that an IUGS doctorate is a definite asset I would like to hear it.
     
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  6. Jan

    Jan Member

    Hey Steve, you must have a boring life if you are getting a charge out of this nonsence.

    I know one issue we agree on and that is that both of us have very strong perspectives regarding the overall value of an IUGS doctorate.
     
  7. jhp

    jhp Member

    I am correct in that DI is in the USA, and DI is not owned, managed or receives any government subsidy?
     
  8. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Actually, there's nothing about this that's true. You make a judgement based on the content of the post. Smart (or stupid) things can come from newbies as well as veterans.
     
  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    If you think so, then why are you sticking around to write that?

    As I've repeatedly said, I don't actually have a strong position at all on IUGS. It's NAB I know well, not them.
     
  10. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    I once saw Mosconi do an exhibition. It was an early lesson of the top tier in any field being virtually in a higher dimension.
     
  11. Koolcypher

    Koolcypher Member

  12. Jan

    Jan Member

    My comment about a boring life was not directed to you but Steve Levicoff.

    In regard to your familiarity with NAB, do you believe that their accreditation status would be acceptable in the US, and if so, on what basis did you arrive at this conclusion?
     
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  13. Jan

    Jan Member

    Koolcypher, did you listen to Kizmet's request? Apparently not. Your fomenting post is in bad taste and is merely pre-empting a relevant and respectful discussion.
     
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  14. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    It's Foerster. He's an island wit, not a Forest Clown.
     
  15. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    Jan, that is not the subject of this thread. By attempting to make it the subject of the thread, you are guilty of hijacking the thread.

    I have no objection to that, but the next time you whine about someone hijacking a thread, perhaps this will serve as a reminder of your hypocrisy.

    In other words, you're busted! :biggrin:
     
  16. Jan

    Jan Member

    No Levicoff, I'm Jan!
     
  17. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The way GAAP typically works, as Dominica's official agency for accreditation NAB should be recognized internationally. And in keeping with that, as I was told by NAB they have a reciprocity agreement with UK-NARIC. So far so good.

    But as I've explained to you twice before now, foreign credential evaluation in the U.S. isn't centralized, but instead is done by private evaluators, the more reputable of which are members of a trade organization called NACES. Generally, if you can get one or more NACES members to evaluate your foreign credential as equivalent to a U.S. one, you're fine. Unfortunately, these organizations do not normally answer hypothetical questions, so it's very unlikely you can get this question answered definitively without an actual case to present to them.

    Put simply, there's no reason to believe that it wouldn't be recognized, but it's understandable if an American doesn't have the risk tolerance for that scenario.
     
  18. Jan

    Jan Member

    It's just very interesting that when speaking with IUGS Admissions and asking their primary representative if she could recommend any reputable academic evaluation service that could certify that their NAB accredited doctoral programs is acceptable and comparable to doctorates from the US, the rep responded as if she never heard of such an evaluation process of foreign degrees! One would think that if this or any other foreign school wanted to market their degrees to prospective US students that they would want to demonstrate the credibility of their degree programs. The fact that they didn't raised a red flag and doubts.
     
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  19. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    Because I do not have a life, I try to put personality to DI's posters. For my own entertainment,
    I am coming to the conclusion that it is personal or maybe history between Jan and Steve L, and Steve F is caught in between. My guess is that Steve L is on vacation because he has been very engaged in DI. I know, this is a total useless post. But what is guy suppose to do in -21 degrees Celsius weather.
     
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  20. Helpful2013

    Helpful2013 Active Member

    It is ironic that Steve F. denigrates another poster for not posting under their real name, when he has been running an online university without his name attached to it for two years. Steve, your startup uni may be a noble effort, but you're trying to have it both ways here. If you've recently added a faculty page with your and Randell's names, then well done you.

    For the record, I think the vengeful behaviour of some people on the internet provides more then enough justification for posting anonymously. I'm willing to take the extra time to evaluate people's arguments instead of compare their personal authority.
     

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