Is DSc also Inferior to PhD ?

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  1. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Me again, you write grandiose statements, such as:

    there are bridges from non-AACSB degrees to AACSB

    You seem to want to see what you want to see. Again, there is no point to have an argument with you.
     
  2. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Elucidation for the sake of others

    RFValve, your written statements are all that can be seen. Would you kindly provide one (1) regionally accredited example to justify your following written statement:

    University's are offering DBAs as a watered down versions of PhDs with:
    - fewer courses
    - not requiring statistics
    - not requiring a dissertation (but a project instead).
    Source


    RFValve, now is your golden opportunity to justify your statement. :ugh:
     
  3. foobar

    foobar Member

    Not that RFValve needs any help, but Capella has fewer courses, is much lighter on both statistics and the dissertation for their DBA with accounting specialization compared to their PhD in accounting. I didn't look at their other business programs.
     
  4. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    You can look at the accounting specializations here: Capella DBA and Capella PhD.

    It looks like the Capella PhD in accounting is 120 quarter credits and the Capella DBA in accounting is 82 quarter credits.
     
  5. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    Wow...that IS quite a difference! Perhaps this is a reason why Capella does not have accreditation from any of the three specialized accrediting bodies for business/accounting. Neither AACSB nor IACBE nor ACBSP differentiate between the Ph.D. and the DBA in their accreditation materials or requirements. Each of these three deem Ph.D. and DBA holders in business to be "doctorally qualified" as business faculty.
     
  6. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    Dr. Gil, the Harvard DBA I cited earlier current research:

    Grandon Gill - USF College of Business

    :shrug:
     
  7. GeneralSnus

    GeneralSnus Member

    Does the Capella DBA require a master's degree for admission? If it does and the PhD does not, that would make the difference in total credits negligible.
     
  8. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    You may be right. What I find disturbing is the apparent weakness of the DBA dissertation research prep compared to the PhD. For example, no doctoral comprehensive exam for the DBA.
     
  9. foobar

    foobar Member

    Both programs require a masters degree for admission. What is interesting is that they do not seem to require any prior coursework in accounting or business.
     
  10. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    Guess this explains it

    Capella Education - News Releases

    "The DBA is a great option for business executives, entrepreneurs, and consultants who want the doctoral knowledge, skills, and credibility to lead their organizations at the highest level. Our three specializations provide opportunities to develop in-depth subject matter expertise in some of today's most cutting-edge areas of business, and an applied dissertation project allows them to make an immediate, practical contribution to their organization," said Raja K. Iyer, PhD, Dean of Capella's School of Business and Technology. "It complements our online PhDs in Business, Organization and Management, and Information Technology, which feature more academically focused research, and are the preferred degrees for those seeking faculty positions."
     
  11. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    Walden DBA requires a "doctoral study"

    Walden's (ACBSP) DBA also appears quite different from the PhD:

    All doctoral degree programs incorporate face-to-face residencies and culminate in either a dissertation or doctoral study, with faculty supporting you along the way.

    PhD requires a traditional doctoral dissertation

    DBA requires the "doctoral study"

    Ph.D. in Management | Ph.D. or D.B.A. | Walden University

    If you follow the link I supplied you can click and see the differences between the dissertation and the doctoral study. For one, the doctoral study has no literature review! And the degree is ACBSP accredited.
     
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  12. carlosb

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  14. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Carlos,

    Thanks for all this info. I have already discussed Walden, Case Western, Colorado Technical among others as examples of schools that are producing more "friendly" doctorates (DBA, DM, DMngt, D anything).

    However, some chose not to see what they don't want to see. I don't want this thread to become another thread of personal attacks.

    I hold myself a DBA and would be the first to be affected by a deterioration of the brand "DBA" but I am also not blind and see that the latter is losing value.

    Regardless of what people say, provided that your options are from schools with similar reputations, I would chose the PhD over DBA, DM, DMngt, or any other D something.



    Thanks.
     
  15. distancedoc2007

    distancedoc2007 New Member

    Is a Golden Globe inferior to an Oscar? Well... maybe... but...

    LOL - Sounds like we should be getting back to our studies! Just saying. :)
     
  16. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Well said, to me this thead is closed and not much more can be added to what was already said.

    It is time to work on some productive issues.
     
  17. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator Staff Member

    It has been time for days!
     
  18. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    The DBA degree assumes that you already have a master's while the PhD program only requires a bachelor's.
     
  19. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    How do you know? Is it on their website and, if so, can you please provide a link? Or did you contact Capella directly for the information?

    It certainly makes more sense if it's that way because 82 quarter credits for a Capella DBA verses 120 quarters credits for a Capella PhD is an extraordinary difference that is inconceivable.
     
  20. JBjunior

    JBjunior Active Member

    According to this http://www.capella.edu/inc/pdf/admissions_requirements.pdf a Master's degree is required for both.....
     

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