This thing has gone from a mystery to an enigma, back again - and now it's a full-blown conundrum. My suspicions were raised with the word Pôle - the only other time I've seen it in a University setting was in connection with Pôle Universitaire Euclide, an alternate name for Euclid University - a place of much controversy in these pages, that makes its home in either the Central African Republic, or a double-wide mobile home in California - take your pick. You may decide on both. Mintaru said: (1) The problem is this document does not prove that IPE degrees are recognized in Canada. Right - and neither does any other document I'm aware of. (2) IPE/PPA's English speaking programs are no Grande école programs. I didn't see that, but I'll take it on faith from Mintaru. If that's so (and I feel it likely is) then -- game over, methinks. So - there we have it. From "maybe acceptable" to "probably not." ....again.