I hate to beat a dead horse but Excelsior name change?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by bceagles, Mar 18, 2004.

  1. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    I've actually been to Transylvania University in Lexington, KY. Nice school.
  2. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    I've heard that you should avoid the night classes.
  3. seekinghelp

    seekinghelp New Member

    Cyrus, you know Lexington?
  4. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    Yes, to some degree. I grew up in Virginia along the Kentucky boarder, so Lexington wasn't that far from me. I used to study Shaolin-Do and had to travel to Lexington for my belt tests under grand master Sin-Kwan The.
  5. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    Oh my! That's just too much! :D
  6. fed406

    fed406 New Member

    As For legit schools that sound bogus, Xavier and Gonzaga get my votes. If it wasn't for big time basketball programs who would know anything about these schools.

  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    This is an ugly comment, and unfactual. I graduated from USNY in 1979, 1980, and 1981. Not "Regents College," not "Excelsior." USNY. That's what's on the diploma. Until USNY spun off Regents College, it was a degree-granting university. I earned three of them. Describing me as somehow unprincipled because I list my school properly is, well, rude.
  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: ???Riddle me this???

    According to participants in my research, the former. It sounded good. No one indicated any confusion with Columbia.
  9. italiansupernova

    italiansupernova New Member

    Slender, curved wood shavings used especially for packing
    (According to dictionary.com)

    Packaging College?

    Shaved Wood University?

    New York University of Wood Shavings?
  10. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Did you wittingly miss the "unwittingly" qualifier?

    I don't see how USNY can have been a "degree-granting university" when its function from the beginning has been that of overseer of degree granting institutions in New York. Every NY college graduate is a graduate of USNY.

    As I see it, USNY grants the right to grant degrees in NY.
  11. Alnico

    Alnico New Member

    Why not cite it on your resume as "Excelsior College (Formerly Regents College) of New York"?
  12. Adam1914

    Adam1914 New Member

    It was Lasalle

    I was sure I had read somewhere that a diploma mill with a name that resembled a well known school was fooling the cotton candy out of HR reps and companies, it was on degreeinfo.com in an article penned by the esteemed Dr. John Bear, he mentioned that many people who received resumes with "Lasalle University" in Louisiana, whose founder later went to prison, believed it was the well known Lasalle University here in my neck of the woods (city of brotherly love!!)

    What's in a name?
  13. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    I think Excelsior is a great name. Latin for "Ever Upward". (Come to think of it that fits my occupation as a "rocket scientist ". In business I list my BS degree as Excelsior (formerly USNY). Excepted without question by employers, clients or grad schools.
  14. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    > I think Excelsior is a great name. Latin for "Ever Upward".

    That's the translation often given.

    But can you give me an example of a Latin sentence where excelsior means "ever upward"? I think it just means "higher", e.g.:

    Si videris calumnias egenorum et subreptionem iudicii et iustitiae in provincia, non mireris super hoc negotio, quia excelso excelsior vigilat, et super hos quoque eminentiores sunt alii (Ecclesiastes 5:7, Vulgate)

    If thou seest the oppression of the poor, and the violent taking away of justice and righteousness in a province, marvel not at the matter: for one higher than the high regardeth; and there are higher than they. (Ecclesiastes 5:8, American Standard Version)

    If you see the poor oppressed in a district, and justice and rights denied, do not be surprised at such things; for one official is eyed by a higher one, and over them both are others higher still. (Ecclesiastes 5:8, New International Version)
  15. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I missed the "unwittingly." But calling people dishonest implies will, not a lack of it.

    USNY was very much a degree-granting institution. It granted mine. There was no other college, school, university, etc. Just the USNY and the degrees it issued.

    I thought people knew that.
  16. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Because I didn't get a degree from either Regents College or Excelsior (the same school with a new name). The USNY ran its Regents External Degree Program, awarding USNY degrees to graduates. But the degrees didn't come from the REDP, they came from USNY.

    This isn't a big point with me, but I like to be accurate.

    (Hey, I'd just as soon tell people I earned my Ph.D. from "The Union Institute" instead of "Union Institute and University," but I don't. I earned it after Union made itself a university.)
  17. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Well, my dental hygienist has hung her diploma from USNY. Asked, she reveals that her degree is from a community college.
  18. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Right. Because the school is part of USNY. But the degree wasn't awarded by USNY. It was awarded by the community college in question.

    USNY graduates before Regents College was created didn't graduate from some other school. They (and I) graduated from USNY.

    Calling people dishonest isn't very nice, whether or not you have correct the point in question. In this case, you don't.
  19. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    Did you just have a near death experience?? Making amends??
  20. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member

    USNY did grant degrees in a grand educational experiment started by Ewald B. Nyquist of establishing an accredited assessment based institution. As a state run organization it instituted a Board of Overseers which acted on the NY Regents behalf as the near equivalent of the trustees of the institution. When the College became Regents College diplomas were still awarded under the USNY title. When Regents College became its own privately chartered (charter from the USNY Board of Regents) institution, with its own Board of Trustees, diplomas were awarded under the Regents College name for about 3 years until the name was changed to Excelsior College. It also needs to be pointed out that the name change away from Regents College was required by the NY Board of Regents because the College was no longer directly under the governance of the NY Regents. Excelsior College is now considered a Member of the University of the State of New York as are all chartered institutions of higher education in NY.

    I must say that I now like the name of the institution and I must admit that I didn't link it at first. It grows on you. Excelsior supports over 100,000 alumni so it is hardly obscure, its degrees and exams are highly respected, and as an institution is an "Ever Upward" enterprise.


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