I hate to beat a dead horse but Excelsior name change?

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  1. bceagles

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    I hate to beat a dead horse but Excelsior name change?

    I know there are numerous threads out there about this, sorry to beat a dead horse.

    I’m sure that for some reason (unknown to me) Excelsior is an acceptable name for this particular college, I still have a hard time with it. Why not something less questionable like Albany College (If its not already being used). I feel the need to immediately apply to grad school upon completion (not that it’s a bad thing, just not the motivation I’m looking for) to try and “bury” Excelsior on my resume’ underneath a Masters. For example:


    University of Springfiled Springfield, USA
    Master of Business Admin Present

    Excelsior College Albany, NY
    B.S. Business 2004

    I have a feeling that I’m not alone in this. What are the chances of another name change? Should we (the people who feel the same way I do) petition the president of the college? Would an influx of letters to the person in charge make a difference?
     
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    Yeah, I'm with you on that stinky Excelsior name. It sounds for all the world like the name of a big diploma mill. I'm sure the name has caused many problems for students seeking employment. If I were interviewing someone and wasn't familiar with the school, I'm sure I would be very suspicious of a school with a name like that.

    I still think Excelsior College is a great college; however, that name is definitely a problem.
     
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    I don't care for the name either.

    Flag of the State of New York:

    [​IMG]

    It means that we have the whole world in our talons and that we're into babes and boats.
     
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    When I was in an interview yesterday, trying to explain my excelsior degree, I noticed the employer seemed very confused by the whole idea, and I'm not so sure he believed my degree was legitimate. I saw him mark down on my resume, next to my degree 'e-degree', seemingly trying to mark it as less credible than standard education.

    Of course, at this same interview, I was also asked what sports I liked, and what my favorite teams were. This was also marked down as a note on my resume, as to refer back to later when making a descision. =P
     
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    I've thought about this one a lot. If I had a degree from that school in Albany, and my diploma said "Excelsior College," here's what I'd put on my resume:

    John Q. Public , Bachelor of Arts degree, 2002, from the institution
    established in 1789 as the University of the State of New York,
    and now called Excelsior College.
     
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    Isn't that "The Artist Formerly Known as the University of the State of New York"? :)

    Tony
     
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    The name SUCKS!!!

    May as well be called Cracker-Jack U.

    ...as in I found the degree in the bottom of a box of...

    I suspect a highly-paid consultant from the middle east suggested the name change and someday soon we're going to find out that it was just a bad joke part of an international terrorist conspiracy!
     
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    :D That just cracks me up!
     
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    Naw, "Excelsior" is just the motto of the State of New York. I agree that they could have tried other better-known New York phrases:

    The College That Doesn't Sleep
    Statue of Liberty College
    Empire State University (oops! already taken)
    The Stock Exchange College
    Broadway College
    42nd Street College
    Pataki College
    Live From New York it's Saturday Night College
    David Letterman College
    Rockette College

    Yes, I know that Excelsior is in Albany, not New York City, but Albany doesn't have as much stuff to make fun of as NYC. Perhaps Erie Canal College?

    As that great philosopher and academic, Minnie Pearl, used to say on the old Hee Haw show: "We're through playin' now!"

    Tony
     
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    They changed the name before, how do we get them to change it again? For the better?
     
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    Up The River Institute

    Damned Yankees College

    Last Of The Mohicans Reservation School

    Rockefeller Owned This Land Grant College
     
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    Don't know anything about beating dead horses but I have it on good authority that they're easier to bury if you saw their legs off.
     
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    Personally, I liked Regents better. I have also had the HR interviewer eye "Excelsior" suspiciously.
     
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    Mordecai Noah University
    Burned-Over District State University
    Dutch Treat University
    Surprising Snowfall University
    Are We In Canada Yet University
     
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    Re: Re: I hate to beat a dead horse but Excelsior name change?

    NOW THAT IS FUNNY!

    :D
     
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    I must be the only person around that actually likes the Excelsior name better than Thomas Edison State College. Not by much, admittedly.

    Randy - I'm curious as to how you explained it to lead the interviewer to believe it's an "e-degree".

    Cheers,
    Mark
     
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    I'd also be curious to know how you described the degree. Personally, if and when that type of question comes up in an interview, I'd go with something like "Excelsior is a regionally accredited college in Albany with a very thorough business program that allowed me to complete my degree at an accelerated pace so that I could start a more relevant master's degree program", although the last part could be left out if no applicable for someone. This clearly states who Excelsior is, clarifies that they are regionally accredited, shows that their business program is up to par, and explains why I chose the school. At the same time, I didn't include anything that might lead the interviewer to believe that it is an "e-degree" or some other shady degree mill.

    If pressed for further details, I would then mention that I completed my degree in their distance learning program. If still pressed for more info or if I have the impression that the interviewer is jumping to incorrect conclusions, I might also include the "Commission on Higher Education of the Middle States Association of Colleges and Schools" as the accrediting body, perhaps mention more recognizable and prestigious schools that they have accredited, and perhaps mention other prestigious schools that offer distance learning programs.

    Quite honestly, once you're past entry and lower-level jobs, an interviewer is typically only looking to check a box on the requirements sheet that states the candidate has a degree. In this job market, if educational accomplishments are a strict criteria, a hiring company is typically looking towards candidates with advanced degrees.
     
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    a good question

    Is Excelsior the weirdest, strangest, most bizarre, rootinist tootinist name in all of academia for someone to give a look of bewilderment at its mention??!
     
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    Try "Argosy"

    As an alumni, I can say I like Excelsior better. Regents seems to confused with Regent U and Salve Regina, and some other R schools. And USNY is a school system, not a school. Sorry folks... I would hate for someone to think I went to a SUNY campus when I did not.

    I think Capella is a better name change though, better than "The Graduate School of America" which was the predessor. (Any TGSA grads have an opinion?)

    While we are dredging up old Regents talk, any word on the big MBA (or even doctoral program) announcement? There is nada on the website, nothing new for months.

    Back to my comps now...
     
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    I also dislike the name. I plan to bury it with a Masters as quickly as possbile as well. While John Bear's description is nice, I think it might possibly just draw more attention to the curious nature of the school. I'm struggling with this right now as I'm putting my resume together so that I can start looking for employment after I separate from the military.

    I wish it was Albany University.
     

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