I am very disappointed with smc university

Unless, Kizmet, he is working on a DBA at another institution at the same time (I have no idea..LOL)

 

Well I suppose that anything is possible but I'm guessing it's time to hit the backspace key a few times.

 

Honorary degrees are normally given for outstanding achievement and they are not self proposed but proposed by a group of people that feels that a particular individual deserves the degree.
It seems to me like the school is using this as a cash cow and this seems unethical.

To the OP, I would delete the DDiv and Honorary DB (eligibility) from my resume, this just reduces your credibility.

I hold also an unaccredited religious degree (metaphysics) that I earned by study but do not list it in my resume. I love metaphysics but also love rock music and have also earned few certificates in guitar playing, I don't see the relevance of including expertise in metaphysics, heavy metal picking, etc in my IT resume. I would include the metaphysics credential if I were to run a practice as a life coach but would make sure to include the religious nature of the degree so there is no deception.

I think would be ethical to list an ordained minister credential (ULC) in other studies or personal interest section of your CV so it shows that you are also a spiritual person.

It is kind of ironic that people buy spiritual credentials to boost a resume when spirituality should be about humbleness. It seems that there is an obsession to use a Doctor title in a resume just to show strength even if this means that you have to recourse to areas such as metaphysics, religion, etc.

 

Yes. I'd forget about the metaphysics - but heavy metal picking? That can be a serious money-maker, 'way beyond a lot of DBAs! Ask Dimebag Darrell, Tony Iommi or Zakk Wylde. HR person spots that on your CV and zap! Your own jet plane! :smile:

J.

 

Can be done.

 

Blasted the professor name. Well, he blasted my work completely just because the admin director asked him to answer email? I guess it is alright to post feedbacks and comments here in forum, and I think it is good for people here to know so they know what to expect when they join SMC University. Did I revealed my name here? Maybe I copy and paste the email too fast. Anyway, I have been through full time on-campus universities, DL and online universities. Roughly, I know what is right or wrong with the university.

Qualifying for honorary doctorate is very different from awarded or conferred honorary doctorate, depending on how you like to argue, but my dictionary told me otherwise. Qualify and Awarded are very different. i put it as qualified means I pass through the selection review. If I put awarded or conferred, that means I have received the degree. Secondly, you already mentioned that presitigious university sometimes conferred honorary doctorate to donors, including celebrities. So, that's is subjective. Isn't the university willing to check through my qualifications, publications and credentials is more reliable then those universities that just conferred based on donations? You can argue as you wish, but that's the fact how honorary doctorates can be conferred. CIBU checked the profile and everything, at least.

Lastly, there's is no pretend in my resume. They are all facts. Qualified for Honorary Doctorate means I passed for the review process by CIBU. I did not sated conferred or awarded, and put them in honors section of the resume, not in the education section for misleading, like the IDA lady. Secondly, I also put the awarded D. D. , well, whatever they call, into the honors section also, not in the education section. If you want to be so particular, I sees people lies all their experiences and put degree mill in resumes before. I made a distinction between awarded and qualified.

 

Can be done.

 

So, are you going to start a different DBA program?

 

Hmm... thinking also...

 

haha, you can always paid for someone to nominate you, even the queen's knighthood, you don't know about that? So, whether is people nominate you or you propose doesn't seemed any differences to me. Yup, you are all right, I throw the D.D. degree into the honor section , not even in education section, not like the ida lady putting degree mill in education section. Strangely, I see no much comments after someone mentioned about sg election here or else where, so does that means you can commit crime and no charges during election?

Universal Life church have many logos with buddhism as one of them. I guess the D. D. means I know heart sutra from buddhism, heheh. Hmm... I also bought a land for fun in Scotland with lordship title on it and they say land conservation which sound very interesting. They even gave me legal documents to change my name and title (to be frank, their documents is even nicer, with higher quality stamps than my genuine top ranked NUS degree). The D.D. from ULC also allows me to put Rev. Dr... haha, I guess I still not so obsessed with these titles as I still have not change them in my official documents and demand people to call me lord, reverend, dr (have I demand it in my resume? I did not even put Dr. in front of my name in my resume). I guess the sarcasm at the IDA India Lady degree mill thread is too complicated for many highly educated to understand, or maybe she may commit suicide with too many "comments" but I won't - oh... that's very neutral and reliable.

Well, there are many ways you can argue around all these donations/charity stuffs. If you join WWF membership with donation, you can also opt for some fanciful water bottles. See, to encourage people to donate, these organisations tries to make them appealing to people with gifts, titles, unaccredited honor degree paper and etc. I see it as a form of gamification or award system, where you donate and get some "token" of appreciation. It may be ethically questioning, I guess it works very well, that's why many organisations, even major ones like WWF, are doing the same.

 

Why? The only thing you can legally buy - for about £1 million - is the title of a Scottish Baron, which is a feudal title. You can't buy peerages.

 

Yes, you seem to have researched a whole bunch of ways to look/sound important without actually doing anything. Congratulations for your lack of accomplishment.

 

It's true that you cannot buy peerages. But you can buy manorial titles. And there is a whole market for people who want to do exactly that. It also appears that you can buy the feudal title of a Scottish baron. There's a whole website about this convoluted system of meaningless medieval swag that you can add to your business card (and, in some cases, passports) to assuage an enormous ego as well as some of the pitfalls and common scams in this realm. This website appears to be the most honest of them by actually spelling out the limitations. Others just straight up claim to be selling peerages.

As Kizmet indicated, however, the OP seems to be the resident expert in getting recognized for doing nothing.

So you'll forgive me if I'm still not entirely impressed by the OP's whining over having to do actual work for a doctoral program. Then again, since the ULC "doctorate" is clearly meeting his needs and another, actually accredited, school is offering to sell another doctorate I'm not sure why one would even need to pretend to earn a doctorate at all.

 

The web site you linked to is a great resource. And as I said, you can, legally, buy the title of a Scottish Baron. It's also entirely possible, but pointless as I see it, to buy from one of many other web sites about 1 square inch of land, which comes with the questionable right to call yourself Lord or Laird and use the pathways of the estate on which your private part of Scotland is located to reach it while you're out inspecting the manor.

 

In 1955, when I was 12 - long before the Internet, I actually had a deed to one square inch of land in the Klondike, courtesy of the Quaker Cereal Company. 61 years later (today) I find that the deed was worthless, as it was never registered. Here's the story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klondike_Big_Inch_Land_Promotion
Am I disappointed? No. Within a year or two, I lost the piece of paper - which was 39 square inches bigger than the land it represented - and never thought about it any more. "Laird," someone jests? HA! Kid stuff! :jester:

J.

 

You should named the one square inch of land and declared yourself master of it. If you still didn't want it, you could have always sold it to Lagu.

 

At 12, I was so naïve (or should I say naïf?) that I would probably have traded it for a bogus degree. :smile:
Perhaps I should have gone further - declared myself a Prince and granted Royal Charters to fake universities for $10,000 apiece. If Axact were around then, I could have become a teenage millionaire!

Wow! Girlfriends and Cadillacs to rival the young Elvis! I'm old now, but I can still dream.... :smile:

J.

 

"Square Inch University is operating under the auspices of Ióan, Laird of Clondaich"

 

The nomination is not the main problem but getting chosen by the University. Most people at real schools are chosen because outstanding contribution to society. Yes, you can buy your "outstanding" contribution but at real universities this mean millions of dollars in donations and not the few thousand that probably you were charged by your University.

 

Tapadh leat, mo charaid! (Thanks, my friend.)

I stole the basic idea from Prince Leonard Casley, of the Principality of Hutt River - not part of Australia, despite its geographical location. I believe Prince Leonard has registered universities within his territory.
His story here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Hutt_River Then again, the Principality appears to have gained much more recognition than I could aspire to with one square inch of the Klondike.

The specific idea of selling Royal Charters to universities? I cribbed that one from the kingdoms of Bunyoro Kitara (Uganda) and Gomoa Nyanyano (Ghana). These are real kingdoms with long histories etc. - and I have no wish to say anything derogatory about the kingdoms or their monarchs. And they have indeed granted royal charters to universities. However, as you pointed out in another thread,

I'd say you made a pretty good point there. :smile:

J.