I am now NCU Student

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  1. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Re: Er ... one other thing

    You should have taken more psychology classes, I suppose...

    Haven't given it much thought, but NoCentral isn't their web address, so I'm not promoting the school by using that name.

    Dave
     
  2. jimnagrom

    jimnagrom New Member

    Re: Re: Who am I?

    I ndunno...we have people claiming conspiracies againt UoP and Capella...a conspiracy against NCU was simply a matter of time..and now it has come to pass...the UoP and Cappella fans have received their Xmas present a bit early this year. ;)
     
  3. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    ROFLMBO :D
     
  4. jimnagrom

    jimnagrom New Member

    Re: Re: Who am I?

    I for one, appreciate Dave's efforts to provide information for optimum decision-making.

    Quite a few people, - including some with Psych class experience, seem to feel a need to become unpaid "boosters" of whatever program, they or a family member have enrolled in - the "numbers = validation" syndrom.

    I am a ISIM (Aspen) grad - it's not for everyone.
    I was a Capella student - and the program was definately not for me - but a close friend does feel it is for him.
    I am a NSU grad - it's not for everyone.
    I am a few classes from an NCU Ed.D - and it's not for everyone.

    I teach FT at a B&M post-secondary institution - and it's not for everyone.
    I teach at UoP - and it's not for everyone.
     
  5. jumpdog82

    jumpdog82 New Member

    Ya know ... this is fun

    Dave, Dave, Dave, (I read somewhere saying something three times gave it effect) this is getting to be too much fun ... I may have to quit. It seems you see gremlins everywhere.

    Well, one thing ... I have not made any comment about students that choose NCU having made the greatest decision. I did not drop by to be a cheerleader, I came by to see what this forum was about. It is sort of interesting, but its greatest appeal ... bar none ... is the ability to rattle the cage of the self-important. And someone that thinks a school is after them is prime for having their cage rattled. But I have had enough fun.

    I will head out ... create another persona, and find some other cage to rattle a bit. It is just the affectation I need to challenge, always needed to step up and say, "Ahhh, bull cakes!"

    I am not paid by NCU to be here, but if they want to pony up a payday or two, I will stay and play tit-for-tat with you all day long (I can use the money). I am a consultant, make over $100K a year, and yet what I want to do is finish this PhD and seek a meager income as a college professor. Is life not wierd, or what? And by the way, I took all those psychology classes I mentioned, and I can spot a person with a glint in his eye, first time around the block. However, I gotta get on up outta here, so Dave, I want to wish you all the best. Try to chill a bit, let a feller come here and be happy about whatever decision he has made without trying to throw cold water on it for him ...
     
  6. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Re: Ya know ... this is fun

    Best of luck to you. Teaching is a great profession.

    By the way, if you have any ideas why these NoCentral students should enroll in that overpriced MBA program, I'd like to hear them.

    Dave
     
  7. jumpdog82

    jumpdog82 New Member

    Shoot ... one last rattle ... then I really am gone.

    Dave,
    That's what I am pointing to ... why the perjorative language?

    Those students chose NCU for their MBA for reasons that include values that may not include the bottom of the cost metric. Perhaps they chose it as it requires no residency, perhaps because there are no timetables for submission of assignments, or perhaps because of several factors I don't even know. My Master's level work was done on Uncle Sam's nickle while I was commanding a basic training company in the Army. I thought the school good, but could perhaps have selected another I preferred for reasons of my own. However, with DOD paying the freight, I attended the school chosen by people I did not even know. Worked out all right in the end. I got a graduate degree I needed, got selected in a timely manner for a secondary specialty I wanted that required a graduate degree, and it was in place when I applied for a PhD program. All that to say, some things are just for reasons other folks won't understand (unless they go through all the rationale).

    That is why I say don't use perjorative language like "that overpriced MBA program" when referring to someone's choice of schools that you don't think makes sense to you (in your decision making matrix).

    'Nuff said, gotta go catch an airplane.

    Later on Brother Dave and others.
     
  8. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Re: Shoot ... one last rattle ... then I really am gone.

    Friend,

    You seem to think that by remaining anonymous that you are not embarrassing NoCentral, but your projective psycho-babble might be hurting the school's reputation. I'd like to believe that you aren't the typical NoCentral student. Were you really admitted to the Ph.D. program at NoCentral?!

    I think you are referring to the word "pejorative", which indicates that either you have not read or not understood what we were discussing in this thread. As I have stated before, it is my opinion that the NoCentral program is overpriced based on what it offers relative to other distance MBA programs, many of which are programmatically accredited. I have never said that the program is bad or substandard, but I do think is it far too expensive for what amounts to essentially a correspondence program. Instead of $475 per credit hour, $300 to $350 would be closer to the market price. Still, you keep twisting what has been discussed. It seems that you have some sort of hidden agenda.

    Please let me know if I can ever be of service.

    Dave
     
  9. jimnagrom

    jimnagrom New Member

    Re: Re: Shoot ... one last rattle ... then I really am gone.

    What RA MBA programs are $300-$350 per credit hour?
     
  10. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Re: Re: Re: Shoot ... one last rattle ... then I really am gone.

    There are a half dozen on this list, and, notably, Amberton at $200 per credit hour, Baker College at $300 and Touro University at $300:

    http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/elearning/tables/mba_reg.htm

    Tarleton State University is listed at an incredible $340 per course, but that must be for Texas residents; still, it might be worth asking about.

    One school I can think of that is not on the U.S. News & W.R. list is St. Joseph's College of Maine at $350 per credit hour:

    http://www.sjcme.edu/masterbusadmin/mbatuition.html?l1=7&l2=0&l3=0&l4=0

    Dave
     
  11. Bruboy

    Bruboy New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Shoot ... one last rattle ... then I really am gone.

    Bellevue is $340 per credit hour.
     
  12. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Shoot ... one last rattle ... then I really am gone.

    Those are definately good prices!!! I only paid $159 per credit for a Masters degree (or about 9k total), but that was at an in-resident state school and the price has since jumped up to about 12k per year.

    It would be interesting to compare the tuition cost at the Masters level of NCU, Capella, UoP and Walden. :eek:
     
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  13. Bryon

    Bryon New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Shoot ... one last rattle ... then I really am gone.

    Not a one accredited by the AACSB. Pay a little more and get a real degree. Intel's decision to pay tuition for AACSB-only is just the beginning. Gotta give it to the Touro people. They know the time has come to unload that turkey TUI before it is too late :D The NCU people appear to be clueless :eek: Who the heck is going to be fooled into believing ACBSP and IACBE is going to amount to a hill of beans in five years?
     
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  14. Bryon

    Bryon New Member

    Why were you unimpressed with the AACSB? Are you that knowledgeable about the inner workings of the top business schools to make such a judgement? Are you saying you are more knowledgeable than the business deans of Harvard or Stanford? At least you got the ACBSP right as a non-factor. Schools book from the ACBSP the moment they achieve AACSB. And the IACBE? Only a fool would tout that place IMHO :D
     
  15. Bruboy

    Bruboy New Member

    For many the accreditation whether it be AACSB, ACBSP, or IACBE is not a factor. For others merely having the AACSB accreditation does not override the poor local reputation of a school. An example of such a school here in New Jersey is William Paterson University that has the AACSB accreditation but also has a poor reputation with respect to quality education.

    An example on the other end of the spectrum is Centinary College that has a better local reputation than WPU but is not AACSB accredited. There's no accounting for taste, but the graduates do manage to get employed.

    Do you frequently chat with business school deans?
     
  16. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shoot ... one last rattle ... then I really am gone.

    Hi Jim,

    Do you get a scholarship from NoCentral for all this shill posting? Me again reports getting a scholarship; do you get one too?

    Dave
     
  17. Bryon

    Bryon New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shoot ... one last rattle ... then I really am gone.

    Wilberforce,
    Have you lost your mind? Still think the shrills of NCU are looking for you? Anyone with half a brain, even a TUI student can tell that I think NCU is bottom of the barrel. Just like TUI. I would not attend NCU\TUI for free. The time I spend alone is too costly. Listen Wiberforce Dave, can you spell AACSB? The ONLY school I would attend is an AACSB school PERIOD. Maybe an unaccredited DBA is impressive to you, but some of us have much higher standards. Settling for TUI\NCU might be ok for you. It sure isnt for me. You see, I have the brains to master the GMAT. Easily.
     
  18. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shoot ... one last rattle ... then I really am gone.

    Jim/JumpDog82/CarlosB/Me Again,

    It's too bad that you had to settle for NoCentral, since it isn't AACSB, but that is what happens to those can't cut it at Capella.

    Again, let me know if you want switch schools. I'm here to help.

    By the way, you don't realize that everyone can see that it is you (Jim), because you came out of nowhere to defend Jim and everyone can see you leave and appear in the forums before you post; next time turn that feature off from the control panel.

    Dave
     
  19. Bruboy

    Bruboy New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shoot ... one last rattle ... then I really am gone.

    The GMAT simply requires the cost of a Kaplan prep course, add a 2.5 undergrad GPA and you got yourself into an AACSB accredited school! In other words you can do mediocre undergraduate work, pay someone to coach you how to take the GMAT and you're in.
     
  20. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    Oookay, I think this thread has reached the end of its usefulness.
     
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