How do you feel NOW, Mr Secretary?

"Trembling with fear?" - what is this drama?
Please don't blur the differences, those with Hamas flags and some of those with Mexican flags that tear down US flags cant be compared to ones who carried Ukrainian flags.
It's unfortunatly aand sadly undocumented migrants who are trembling with fear due to enforcement activities.
Re-read the post, I simply asked a question.

 

It's not MY view. It's the view of MediaBiasFactCheck.com. Fox is way worse than NBC, CBS and ABC, for both reliability and bias. It's also even worse than CNN and MSNBC on bias. Fox is extremely biased. They do things like publish outright lies by Trump and Elon Musk and don't say that they're lies, only that here's what was said by Trump or Elon Musk. Leaving people with the assumption that the lies are truth.

 

You are pretending that Musk tries to solve the problem of how USAID works. He doesn't. As he plainly said, multiple times, his goal is to destroy the agency completely. Trump (and Musk) doesn't believe in foreign aid. Same with the Department of Education. Same with CFPB.

Do you share these goals? If not, are you considering voting for the Democrats? Why or why not?

 

You started by concern trolling "why some of participants at protests carry Mexican flags", insinuating without proof that they are members of "dangerously radical" Civil Rights movements. Tearing down US flags came later, which is an example of a fallacious debate technique known as "moving the goalposts".

Here, let me make it clearer: many Ukrainian civic organizations display a portrait of Stepan Bandera, a 1930-1940ies Ukrainian freedom fighter whose guerilla movement was (credibly) accused of war crimes and who himself engaged in political assassinations. My church has one of these on a wall in a dining hall. Stop throwing stones when your house is made entirely of glass. And that's me not even going into the history of the state of Israel.

Are you sad enough to deny the GOPniks your support? Will you vote for the Dems at midterms? Why or why not?

In other words, you engaged in the infamous Internet troll technique called "just asking questions", or "JAQing off".

 

JAQ off and JAQing off are both in the Urban Dictionary. I haven't ever seen it before though. I enjoyed it very much. Thanks! JAQing off is one of Lerner's favorite trolls.

 

So let's bypass FOX,

https://www.meforum.org/press-releases/mef-report-justifies-the-overhaul-at-usaid

MEF Report Justifies the Overhaul at USAID
The Data in ‘Terror Finance’ Paint a Clear Picture: USAID Is Complicit in Financing Jihad
MEF’s report exposing USAID abuses comes amid the Trump administration’s overhaul of foreign assistance and government spending, with the State Department absorbing USAID’s offices and assuming control of its activities and records. Earlier today, the Trump administration placed a global freeze on foreign aid and Secretary of State Marco Rubio took over as USAID’s acting administrator.

MEF’s investigations underscore the urgency behind efforts to reform the federal agency. USAID funding is regularly dispensed to foreign and domestic nongovernmental organizations publicly affiliated with terrorist networks in places like Gaza, Syria, and Afghanistan.

For example, a 2018 article revealed that, with USAID’s explicit approval, Christian mega-charity World Vision funds Al Qaeda in Sudan. Or a 2024 report showed USAID grant recipients working hand-in-hand with Hamas jihadists. Many other jihadi groups have prospered thanks to unwitting U.S. taxpayer patronage.

About
https://www.meforum.org/press-releases/congressional-probe-into-islamist-groups-cites-mef-research

"The Middle East Forum, a think tank founded in 1994 by Daniel Pipes, promotes American interests in the Middle East and protects Western values from Middle Eastern threats.
In the Middle East, we focus on ways to defeat radical Islam; work for Palestinian acceptance of Israel; develop strategies to contain Iran; and deal with advancing anarchy.
Domestically, the Forum emphasizes the danger of lawful Islamism( Radical Jihadists); protects the freedoms of anti-Islamist (Radical Jihadists) authors, and activists; and works to improve Middle East studies.

“The Middle East Forum has been engaged in investigating and exposing extremist organizations or abusing their tax-exempt status,” notes Gregg Roman, MEF’s director. “We are gratified to see our research informing Congressional work and leading to greater scrutiny of these organizations.”
“The citation of our work in these congressional inquiries confirms the importance of continued vigilance and thorough investigation into groups that may be misusing charitable status to advance extremist ideologies.”"

 

I really don't know that much about Israel history, but didn't a huge majority of Jewish population came there from other countries in XX century, as a result of a very deliberate Zionist action? I actually enjoy reading essays by a controversial Zionist leader Zeev Zhabotinsky. He's from Odessa, writes on Russian Empire affairs with authority because that's where he lived, and uses fluent Russian language because that's actually his first language. I will even concede that the repatriations, and founding of Israel as a Jewish state, was justified as a pretty much the only way Jewish people could guarantee their survival (exactly like Ukrainian sovereignty is our only bulwark against our very ethnocide-minded crazy neighbor), but this is another example of being a stone-thrower who forgot that he lives in a very, very glass house.

I would need a reliable source on "nearly every" estimate. Surely you realize how improbably it sounds.

I bet some might. "Ethnic cleansing" is such an ugly word. Thing is, if it's involuntary there's no difference in this distinction.

Trump denies this would happen. And, realistically, he's not wrong for a change.

Chicken, meet egg.

 

You as usual make generalizations and distorting my posts.
Please show me where I said what yiu are accusing me?
I spoke of small groups within the peoteatora.
And yes, still don't understand the content in wich the Mexican flag is used.

I know some have a need to inflate and intencify, inflate my posts so they can argue and appear just.

As to history of Israel there are many anti Israel lies perpetrated, naratives invented by KGB and PLO, and what was Polit Information in the old Soviet Union.
All anti Israel.
As to Ukraine, like any country there are all types of people, history shows the good the bad and the ugly.

All I can say is that I had good childhood and life while growing up in Chernivtsi.

 

Oh, for f*#k's sake...


Let's have this as starting point, shall we? $16bn to Ukraine. A gotcha in an article you link to amounts to $200k to what it calls an Al Quaida affiliate. What is it, like 0,001%?

 

You said that Arabs came to historic Palestine from other countries, and therefore have no claim to their own homes. Well, so did Jews, and to a much higher degree too. Stones, glass. Glass, stones.

 

I don't think the Fox article gave the 10 years for their study. So that works out to be less what $13 million dollars a year. It also appeared that the money went through multiple hands before it reached the "bad guys". Therefore, the assertion that it is okay for Trump to break the law and close down USAID because some 0.000325% percent of the money ended up in bad guys coffers is brain dead stupid! Give me a break!!! This is going to cost some 52,000 Americans their job, if Trump is successful!

 

You’ve misquoted my point again.
Arabs arrived in the Land of Israel, also known by the Roman name Syria Palaestina, at different points in history. Some came during the 7th century CE, while others arrived during Salah ad-Din’s conquests or in the 18th century as foreign workers during the Ottoman era.
On the other hand, Jews maintained a continuous presence in the land, albeit sometimes in smaller numbers following the Roman exile, and at other times in larger communities. Over the centuries, various sultans allowed Jews to settle in different areas of the land.

 

There are origin stories for both Palestinian Jews and Palestine Arabs. Those stories are irrelevant. What matters is that there is a long established Arab community in Gaza of which senior members of the current Government of Israel openly call for total eradication by killing and exiling. That Government is doing its level best to bring about total extirpation. That's genocide. It's just that simple.

It's awfully easy to get caught up in the weeds here. To those who say that the Arabs are likewise sworn to kill every Jew and would do so if the relative positions were reversed, yes, that's undoubtedly true. But that's not what's happening and it does not justify genocide.

For those who say that the Arabs have rejected every opportunity to make peace yet embraced every opportunity to make war, that's not untrue though it's a bit more complicated than that. But that also does not justify genocide.

For those who say that there are many Arab countries but just one State of Israel, that's irrelevant. Genocide is genocide.

These arguments are red herrings.

 

There is a difference between shut down and overhaul.
You read my previous post, I'm for systematic review and shutting down programs that are funding terror and programs that bogus etc.

 

Before the establishment of Israel, there were Jewish communities in parts of what became the Gaza Strip, including the Kibbutz Kfar Darom, which was established in the 1940s.
The 1949 Armistice Agreement between Israel and Egypt left Gaza under Egyptian military administration.
The Jewish presence in Gaza was completely removed at that time, and Egypt did not allow Israeli civilians to return.
In operation Kadesh Israel took over Gaza then under pressure of UN, US, USSR etc, Israel had to take appart the setlements in gaza and leave.

Gaza there was never a genocide, and repeating there were one will not make it true.
Israel made mistakes, and there were attempts to transfer population, inituaslly 100,000 from Gaza to israel with dement of annexing gaza. It failed.
Gaza had a local older population and during the 1948 war Palestinian Arabs moved there and in to other refugee camps by the orders of Arab countries.
Gazans don't was only Gaza they want all the land of Israel.
Most people ignore that Gaza has two borders, Egypt and Israel.
Israel gave Gaza to Egypt in 1948, took it back in a war of 1967. Israel had demented Kibuts and homes in Gaza.
Left Gaza gave it to Palestinians in 2006.
Noting good came out of transfer of populations, if anything Israel got security problems when Gazans who left to Jordan, started the PLO.
Today there is new reality, another war is being fought.

 

Bill,
From millions of $$$$ getting to Hamas, how many rockets they made, how many bombs it funded?
The Raffa passage had 100s of millions transferred there.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Monday the United States is walking away from “dumb” foreign aid, not from foreign aid entirely.

“We’re not walking away from foreign aid,” Rubio said in an interview on SiriusXM’s “The David Webb Show” with guest host Scott Jennings. “We are walking away from foreign aid that’s dumb, that’s stupid, that wastes American taxpayer money.”

 

Yes there is. What Musk is doing is shut down. He said so himself, and that's plainly what is happening. This is, among other things, illegal. You state that you oppose the shut down. Can Democrats count on your vote in 2026?

 

Rubio is lying here. That's the point of this thread: Trusk regime turning Marco Rubio into a reckless accomplice. "How do you feel NOW, Mr. Secretary?".

 

Rubio said the administration’s aim was a program-by-program review of which projects make “America safer, stronger or more prosperous.”

The decision to shut down U.S.-funded programs during the 90-day review meant the U.S. was “getting a lot more cooperation” from recipients of humanitarian, development and security assistance, Rubio said.
Republicans typically push to give the State Department — which provides overall foreign policy guidance to USAID — more control of its policy and funds.
Democrats typically promote USAID autonomy and authority.
Funding for United Nations agencies, including peacekeeping, human rights and refugee agencies, have been traditional targets for Republican administrations to cut.

 

Meanwhile, Musk:

Rubio is reduced to a carnival clown distracting the crowd while their pockets are picked. His mom must be so proud. Meanwhile, people who repost Rubio's words without also noting they're lies are either breathtakingly gullible, or knowing accomplices. Which one are you?