Fruitland Pk. Florida Chief of Police - Degree Problems

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by mingan, Feb 16, 2010.

  1. mingan

    mingan New Member

  2. imalcolm

    imalcolm New Member

    Somehow I doubt he took any actual courses. :rolleyes:
  3. AUTiger00

    AUTiger00 New Member

    If he really was unaware that is a shame.
    On another note, that reporter should spell and grammar check her writing. That was terrible.

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    "I'm angry. I'm devastated about it,"

    I would refer him as a big fat liar. First of all, he is the Chief of the Police Department. He supposed to know whether the school is legit or not. It shows that he has no knowledge, then he should not be the boss all the Polices in the Department. I don't know whether Youngfield University offers courses or not, but I don't think he took any of those courses. He properly uses the theory, "nothing is illegal unless you get caught." Apparently, what he did in the dark is now coming to light.
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    But I'm sure he's a popular guy. He'll be allowed to "admit" he made a mistake in not "checking things out completely," or some other such nonsense. He'll pay back the extra salary and then go on. But know this: he did not take courses (there were none to take) and he did claim a degree he most certainly knew was gained under fraudulent means--whether or not he knew the "school" in question was fake. That makes him a very public liar. And he'll carry on.
  6. friendorfoe

    friendorfoe Active Member

    He should run for office. And I do agree, he is lying through his teeth. This guy should be charged with fraud if he received even 1 red cent of educational incentive pay because of the degree...
  7. mingan

    mingan New Member

    Wow. And while holding the position that requires the greatest of public trust.
  8. potpourri

    potpourri New Member

    I honestly have no sympathy for this chief of police. The web site makes it clear that it looks like those universities that just sell you a degree and it definately isn't a legitimate university. I just don't understand why he wouldn't know the difference between an accredited and legitimate university. The letter that this university sent him was interesting and it was basically a disclaimer stating that the university isn't an accredited one, and this is the university's way of covering their butts so that they can't get into trouble legally. It's basically no different than someone printing up fake degrees and using a disclaimer that states for entertainment purposes, and if he truly paid $7000 for both degrees he really is really crazy as this is a significant money to pay for something that isn't worth the paper it is written on. I could think of much better things to do with $7000. The other thing that I don't understand is if he knew that these credentials weren't required to have his position, one only can assume that the reason why he did it was to make extra pay for these fake degrees. The other issue stems that the city government should have verified that these degrees came from an accredited institution, so not only does the chief of police in my opinion bare responsibility, but also so does the city officials who should be checking on any credentials that are coming from employees to make sure that the institution that people get their degrees from are from an accredited and reputable source.
  9. major56

    major56 Active Member

    In that a police chief /chief of police is a political appointment position, there’s also the possibility that they (city officials) did previously know about the 2-bogus credentials …
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 18, 2010
  10. TCord1964

    TCord1964 New Member

    If the chief of police can't do some basic homework and check the school's accreditation, how is anyone supposed to trust the merits of his police work?

    His story doesn't wash.
  11. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    I wouldn't be too sure; the fact that a suspect raised the initial questions about his degrees tells me that his department is small enough that he actually goes out on patrol and makes arrests.

    That makes his credibility about 0% right now. Everyone he arrests or even has a hand in arresting is going to bring up the fake degrees, which is a potential fatal torpedo for any criminal case he's involved with.

    I'd be VERY surprised if he's still the chief of police in a year from now.
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Obviously, Bruce's background in law enforcement gives him particular insight to a case like this, and he's probably right. But I seem to recall, oh, about a zillion cases--including those in LE--where the perps in these things kept their jobs.

    This condition, of course, is hardly limited to LE. We've seen teachers, fire officials, and other public and private people have it chalked up to "a mistake" and be allowed to carry on.

    We'll see.
  13. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    I'm sorry, but unless you are COMPLETELY stupid, this website where the Chief apparently went to get his degree, smells of fraud from 50 miles away.

    no address or phone number
    no faculty
    no details on degrees offered

    And in a true feat of brilliance, not even any real information on how to enroll, nor any call to action *to* enroll.

    Oh and they even have testimonials by two holders of their fake degrees, one from Kathy Hessing of MRI Consulting in Los Angeles, California, and one from Kate Nevins, who describes herself as a Certified Health Trainer in Phoenix, Arizona.

  14. mingan

    mingan New Member

    I especially like the "pay now" part on the first page.
  15. The_Professor

    The_Professor New Member

    How about the "Get your online degree at Youngsfield University!" with a "Pay Now" button right on the homepage for a dead give-away...

    And here's the WHOIS registration:
    Vsworx Information Systems Pvt. Ltd.
    C-62, 3rd Floor, Old Double Storey, Lajpat Nagar-4
    New Delhi, Delhi 110024

    Registrar: NAMESDIRECT
    Domain Name: YU-EDU.COM
    Created on: 01-OCT-08
    Expires on: 01-OCT-09
    Last Updated on: 01-OCT-08

    Administrative, Technical Contact:
    Saxena, Nilesh [email protected]
    Vsworx Information Systems Pvt. Ltd.
    C-62, 3rd Floor, Old Double Storey, Lajpat Nagar-4
    New Delhi, Delhi 110024
    IN 91-11-51625951

    Now I'm no detective, but consider this guy thoroughly busted with less than five minutes of amateur detective work.
  16. I try my BEST to give people the benefit of the doubt. I kept on trying to chalk it up to sheer ignorance... untill I saw the website :rolleyes":

    You know what it reminds me of? Sometimes, when you accidentally type in the wrong URL for a popular site you get a cheezy-looking homepage type site that is obviously not of any utility. It looks just like one of those sites. The pictures scream of public domain and not a single part of it even remotely reminds me of anything academic.

    PSHAW... this guy knew exactly what he was doing.

    What boggles my mind is that 7k at one of the big 3 could get you a REAL degree and you'd have money left to spare. Why do this nonsense?

    Since each person is likely to highlight their favorite part about the site, here is mine:
    :eek: ??? The wording of everything on the site is migrane-inducingly awkward, and the fact that the site address has edu in it ( is another call for my favorite emoticon: :rolleyes:
  17. TMW2009

    TMW2009 New Member

    Can someone translate 'Don't be lonely in a fair amount of information' for me? The phrase is making my brain twist sideways.
  18. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    Because it involved no effort, other than entering a credit card number.
  19. c.novick

    c.novick New Member

    I agree with Bruce. This man has lost respect and credibility. Without them has little chance of functioning as an effective police chief. His days are numbered.
  20. friendorfoe

    friendorfoe Active Member

    If he can't testify with any credibility he's done, or at best going to be riding a desk for the rest of his career.

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