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Well, as long as we are cutting out parts of the Bible we don't like, I have many suggestions.

Of course, once you discount one part, doesn't that mean that the Bible is not really the Word of God?

Or is it that a bunch of junk got included in the Bible that shouldn't be there? (And why did God permit this? Did God not have a hand in deciding what should be included in the Bible? I honestly don't know. Perhpas not.)

Or perhaps it's just that the people on this forum are smarter than God and have a much better idea about what should be part of the Bible.

 

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Is it possible the Word of God has been adulterated over time?

Do we really need anything but the four Gospels and, perhaps the Book of James insofar as the New Testament goes?

 

But we are now allowed to add to or subtract from scripture. I don't do references.

 

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Personally, I would always prefer a preacher who thought he was an academic to a mill shill who thought he was an academic.

 

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Etymologically speaking, isn't any body of knowledge "science?"

 

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I have no idea. But it is an honor to be in the presence of those who are gifted with the ability to determine which parts of the Bible are true and which are false. You are truly prophets (apparently).

 

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No.

 

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I just reread my posts and I cannot find where I made that determination.

I merely posed some questions.

It is my belief that other than the teachings of Jesus and James' instructions concerning the practical application of those teachings, that's sufficient for me.

 

Just observe on that site

"All our courses are accredited by International Council For Accrediting Alternate And Theological Studies. These are also affiliated to International Theological University. "

 

Not taking one side or the other...but simply keeping in mind that all of the NT references to "Scripture" are regarding the OT not the collection of NT writings...

and I believe even Peter found Paul's writings difficult...

brad

 

Throwing out Paul will not rid the Scriptures of election:

Have you not read in the "Old" Testament how God chose Israel? "The Lord, thy God, hath chosen thee." Deut 7

And individuals too, "Before you were born I set you apart" (Jer 1).

Or of the elect in Mark 13?

Or in John, in Jesus' own explanation, "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me...no man can come to Me unless the Father draws him" ?Jo 6.

Or in Acts, "what Your power and will decided before should happen" ? (ch 4)

Or in Peter, "Elect according to foreknowledge" ?(1 Pet 1)


I know let's keep all the nice , old Books. We'll just pass out sissors ,and you boys can out the chapters and verses through out the Bible you think shouldn't be there.

 

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"What I write is the Lord's command." 1 Cor 14

"People distort (Paul's writings) as they do THE OTHER SCRIPTURES to their own destruction." 2 Peter 3.

 

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Jimmy (and Howard) :

I'm searching for your consistency Jimmy. In the thread on the death penalty you cited a church father who was against it. You said that the early church was closer to the mind of Christ than are we two thousand or so years later.

But will you not seem inconsistent ,then, with that supposed axiom of yours if you ignore the esteem of the bishops of the early church for the Pauline writings?

Clement of Rome (30-100AD) in his First Corinthians cites from Paul's writings to evince or illustrate his points just as he references "OT" Scriptures. He treats the OT/Paul equally! He affirms that Paul wrote under inspiration (47). Therefore , we have here a first generation bishop affirming Paul's writings as Scripture.

Ignatius (30-107) also quotes Paul as Scripture. He calls Paul , "The Christ bearer." (Eph, 6)

Papias(70-155) also relies on the Pauline literature more even than any other NT Book.

Polycarp (65-100?-155?) cites from Ephesians , Corinthians, Romans etc, and calls Paul's writings "Sacred Scripture."

Polycarp also says, "Neither I nor any such one can come up to the wisdom of the blessed Paul" (Phil, 3)

Of course, Polycarp had not met you--ha,ha

 

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I agree.

 

Hi Zvavda.

There are any number of educational resources in religion available at nominal or no cost. A few of them are DL, most of them aren't. I'm always on the lookout for them.

The problem that I see with this one is the fact that it is emulating a university and offering all kinds of questionable academic degree programs.

If it simply offered non-credit, non-degree classes for its students' edification and personal growth, then I'd applaud it.

That wouldn't necessarily mean that its classes were any good, but if it wasn't making any grandiose promises or taking large amounts of its students' money, I'd leave to up to those students whether they found it valuable.

 

Isn't this basically how we got the Bible in the first place?

Don't forget Luther didn't think James should be in the Bible. Sorry, Bill, I have no reference to back this up.

 

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No.

 

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why not? Please explain why it is consistent to cite as evidence early church fathers on the death penalty but reject the fathers on Paul?

 

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Where is your evidence that chapters and verses were cut out of Bible books because the church did not like predestination or any other doctrine?

 

theological accredation in India

As I understand it, in India, theological degrees are accredited by one of two bodies (and more recently a third). The first one, which is primarily recognised by the government, is the Serampore senate. The second, which is semi-government recognised and recognised among theological institutions internationally is that of the Asia Theological Association (ATA), an affiliating body which is considered to be more Evangelical. The recent third entry is the Indian Institute of Missiology (IIM), although recognition for this is still not universal. As far as I can tell, "Trinity" is recognised by none of these, and would thus be considered unaccredited, at least within India. I know that graduates from Serampore and ATA affiliated schools are normally accepted for admission in US and other seminaries for higher courses.

Matt