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Chapter 7 to be exact.

 

Brad,

Thanks for the clarification. Okay, my PM box is empty. if you haven't "unloaded your canon" on me, fire away!

Blessings brother,

Chris

 

<<Again Bill, my only point is that it is possible for the NT to quote from non-canonical sources, and that James may have been doing that as we find no direct quote in Scripture as what he has "quoted" in 4:5, and that therefore graphe might possibly refer to non-canonical writings as well...>>


Norman Geisler takes the opinion that a work that was not included in the canon of scripture need not be considered uninspired in all of its contents. In other words, it is possible that portions of a non-canonical book may include inspired elements, or at very least, contain elements that do not contradict inspired works. We know this to be true. There are NUMEROUS Old and New testament books that were not included in the canon. Some of these books were apocryphal while others were pseudepigraphal. As an entire work, none were considered inspired. That being said, many of the books DO contain factual content and truth that agree with the historical events referenced in canonical writings, as well as their moral and ethical principles. Perhaps this is the case with the James quotation. If James was quoting from a non-canonical source, but the quotation summarizes a larger truth from a canonical source, I have no problem considering that summarizing quote as scripture.


Tony

 

To all of us with obsesion for theological degrees

Dear friends: do you really think that the Acredited institutions are the proper way to learm about God?.. May be, or the most problably, is that between the managent of the acreditor there will be an atheist. So you put to the consideration of this people, who is cualificated or not to know about the Lord. On my humble opinion, the things about the Lord should remanain inside of the religuos institutions and not mixed with ordinary academic degrees. If I am psicology or chemistry or journalist, or archeologic, I am this with no doub in any place. But in front on the people that do not belive on God, our Bachelor and Master or Doctoral, are nothing more than a pice of paper. You can not go to an employer and told him "Hey you must pay me more or accepted me for a job due to I have a M.Div", if the employer does not belive on God you have nothing more than an imaginary degree about an imaginary God.
Please do not take my words like an ofensive, I am a men of faith, I am a hinduism priest, and in our understanding, the theachings about the Lord must came from the devotees of the Lord, and must be followed in a monastery or earing from a bona fide masters linked with the vocational priest. I must tell you that I am not indian men, I am a spanish men that grow up in the Chatolic Church and let the seminary for anagreements, but I am very happy wich I learned there, I made a diferent choice, thats all. Jesus was not the founder of the first diploma mill institution because he left his disciples to preach without a M.Div.
What is more funny?, I will tell you, you can obtain a religous degree on UK about hinduism in the university, and the most incredible is that no one of the theachers has put one foot on genuine Indian Temple on India, and they are not followers of this religion, but they take the power in the name of the CIVIL UNIVERSITY to say Who is cualificated on this area in despite of the thousand of monks living in the temples on India.
This is what the obsesion so to put the Lord into the universitary degrees are bringing to us. Finally do you really think that you are a better servant of the Lord because you have a pice of paper acredited by a civil instituion?. I think that all of you are a great servant of the Lord, greater tham me, I have no doub on it, but for the big cuantity of love you have to Him.
Sure there is people with a doubs degree on religion, but remember the words of the evangelical theachings, "Let this people in peace, because if they work are not coming from God, it will be destroy it self, but if is coming nobody will destroy".
University should be a civil instituion, is not the same to be a doctor on medicne that to be a Doctor on theology, you will be the first in all over the world, you will be the second only with the members of your own religious comunity and with genuine faith on God. God bless you and sorry for my very bad english.

 

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What the key factor changing you from Christian to be hinduism?

 

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Long history zavdav. Bassically one thousand of question not answered. One day my mentor told me "I had teach you till my kwnoloments let me, so you have my bleasing to go and asking in other places". He was very honest with me and I will be allways gratefull with him. Finally I found it what I was looking for in one travel to India, and old hinduist monk answered it my questions. But in each religious is the same truth inside, for me now all are diferents ways of expression of the same transcendetal reallity.

 

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4- I think Theological training might be a tool for better service , but I don't think a degree is absolutely necessary in all cases to serve or that a degree makes one more devoted. [/B][/QUOTE]

Dear Bill for me your last afirmation is the most important of all. Frecuetly we can see that what is acredited for you is not acredited for chatolic and many others. I think that we have a diferents points of view about this, for me theology is not an universitary science, in the traditional understanding. For me the scriptures are an instrument to let you the way to trancendentally open, the question is that the religious leaders most of the time are living on the instrument and fighting each others in the name of their owns books. You are looking the finger that show the road, but not put yourself in moviment on the road. For me is very dificult to explain about this on english. finally I accept your considerations and I hope you will accept my owns. finally dear friend, there is nothing to discus about, the died will came to visit us, and them we should see what road was true. Any case I do not want to have arguments on it, the main problem in the world is that people are looking to other side while this world is full of violence. I think that all religious people should work together in the proper way, and finlaly "Let what belongs to Caesar on Caesar, and give to the Lord what belongs to Him"

Tanks for your post