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  1. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    Middle East or Middle States? Middle States is a regional accreditor. "Middle East Association Commission" is nothing.
     
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  2. tadj

    tadj Active Member

    Some of these accreditations appear to be the school's own creations. These organizations do not exist outside of the website references. They do bear resemblance to more established organizations.
     
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  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Middle States has a high school-level division that does a lot of non-degree stuff. And I doubt they offer it to Euro schools. One operator tried to slide that by us before, saying he had "Regional Accreditation" from Middle States for his US career-type school. We debunked it in 5 minutes. He did have Middle States - the lower-level part, that doesn't accredit colleges and universities. The nonentity supposedly from the Middle East, I'm not even gonna look for.

    They're obviously making it up as they go along. All three of us know what this is, I'm pretty sure. I'm out. Thanks, @tadj and @Dustin.
     
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  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    And if anyone does like the school, go ahead and buy your "degree." I'm not stopping you.
     
  5. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

    Well, I like them for providing free stuff. The rest, well, I hope we all know what to think about it...
     
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  6. Steven Nguyen

    Steven Nguyen New Member

    I think it is not a degree mill because it doesnt sell their degree this program is free. I think it ia like unaccredited school in the US
     
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Some - by no means all - unaccredited schools in the US have been notorious degree mills and bilked people out of millions. And yeah - this school is free - or says so, anyway. So there are some differences. At least, I hope so.

    This school is not merely unaccredited. They wrap their "free degrees" in a lot of bafflegab and seven kinds of spurious-appearing "accreditation" that signify a total degree-granting authority of ZERO. That leaves a terrible taste, to me.

    What good is free-but-useless? In a lot of places, you could be in really deep trouble, using it for employment purposes. And further study? Forget it, at any legitimate university. It's a wallhanger. That's it.

    This place is not a charity. It has to be a business - or it'll die. There has to be money coming in somehow - and not just Google Ad revenue. A degree program costs, to deliver. You have to pay people to come up with a curriculum, instructors to make video lectures, interface with students, mark assignments etc etc. Do they have a mysterious benefactor? I doubt it. Maybe you find out how they do it, after you sign up -- or when you complete the course...

    Go ahead. Sign up. Find out. What could happen?
     
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  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    @Dustin I saw a Google Ad for Durham College on this Academy Europe site. Now there's a real school! :)
     
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  9. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    SMC (Malta version) does list Transknowlogy as their "US headquarters". So yeah, that's that they imply. And I believe SMC is in fact accredited. Of course, it would not be the first time if there's some twist and Malta approval actually doesn't cover the US affiliate...
     
  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    MSA-CESS which they claim, is the Middle States division for non-degree granting schools. They say so and the Member list reflects it.. https://www.msa-cess.org/about-us/

    I';m convinced that "Middle East" etc. is simply a typing mistake. MSA-CESS is clearly displayed beside the Middle East entry.

    No suggestion that the Malta accreditation is even invoked here. Not that I believe for an instant it could be. I browsed the MSA-CESS membership list -- right. No degree-granting schools. The SMC organization. has a LOT of years of experience marketing degrees without recognizable accreditation.

    That doesn't of course, stop others believing what they want. It's their money - not mine.

    This is not the first school mentioned on DI that has passed off MSA-CESS as accreditation for degree-granting schools. It is not.
     
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  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    And I think they've now transferred that knowledge - to Transknowlogy U. Maybe that's how the school got its name.

    If you have to put bits and pieces together to "make" a school's degree-granting legit - it probably isn't. Feel free to prove me wrong. It's your time...
     
  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Actually, that's a good illustration of a well-known principle: A really smart "mark" is a con-man's best victim. Why? The intelligent mark has, and uses, the ability to fill in gaps in the con-man's pitch. The con-man leaves gaps intentionally, to avoid questions about proper permission, unlikely statements, or perhaps things that were done under cover of darkness.

    The "mark" spots the gaps and works hard to rationalize them: They must have secured a permit, they must have assay results, inspections or whatever. The (otherwise) intelligent mark feels good - invigorated, relaxed and confident after the brisk mental exercise - and the mark becomes a victim. You let them tell the story to themselves. They like that. :)
     
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  13. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

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    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

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  15. elcastor21

    elcastor21 New Member

    ACCREDITATION

    Our founding principles are based on the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights; per article 26, Academy Europe believes that Higher Education is a Human Right. As UN secretary Mr.Ban Ki Moon said that “Education promotes equality and lifts people out of poverty. It teaches children how to become good citizens. Education is not just for a privileged few, it is for everyone. It is a fundamental human right”. Academy Europe has implemented a paradigm shifting educational model for its academic programs that have allowed it to move closer to this goal through the self-empowerment of its students, decentralization of the learning process, personalized open curriculum design, a sustainable learning model.

    So their accreditation is the literal UN Declaration of Human Rights, that's the best of all accreditations possible! How can they do that! /s
     
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  16. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Well, unless you count that seminary that was accredited by Jesus Christ.
     
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  17. elcastor21

    elcastor21 New Member

    LOL, friggin' legends, did he gave the diplomas too?
     
  18. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The school had "Apostolic" in its name, so perhaps vicariously? ;)
     
  19. elcastor21

    elcastor21 New Member

    It literally says "a new millenium for distance learning" so it screams late 90's
     
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  20. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    And the course content links to https://globalopenuniversity.com, a website built with Microsoft FrontPage 6.0(!)

    The meta-tags reference "California State University, Fullerton", which is weird. They appear to have copied their description from this page: https://catalog.fullerton.edu/content.php?catoid=61&navoid=7317

    The graphics are all bitmaps and the nav bar is broken Javascript. A working version of the menu can be found here: https://www.globalopenuniversity.com/menu.htm

    Under the "bar on payments" section: https://www.globalopenuniversity.com/bar_on_payments.htm

    Okay.

    The globe leads to this login page: https://globalopenuniversity.com/login.htm. Unfortunately these URLs all point to a server in the format http://216.127.94.94/globalopenuniversity.com/data/uk/environmentalscience/diploma/diploma.htm

    Trying the obvious: https://globalopenuniversity.com/data/uk/environmentalscience/diploma/diploma.htm leads to a 404.

    I did find this: https://www.globalopenuniversity.com/contact_us.htm. In contrast to the other forms which use badly written HMTL and Javascript, this one seems to use bad PHP.
     

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