Fired FBI director James Comey admits leaking information to MSM

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

     
  2. jhp

    jhp Member

    I did not write that he will be prosecuted.

    But, to further on the perjury - Mr. Comey stated that he never took meeting notes with any other president, only with Mr. Trump.
    Unfortunately for Mr. Comey, he did take meeting notes with former President GW Bush. In those notes he indicated that Mr. Comey and his close friend Mr. Robert S. Mueller III would quit if former President Bush would reauthorize a surveillance program. He shared those notes with a biographical author, and were published.

    Mr. Mueller is now investigating the Russia matter including the firing of Mr. Comey.

    On a side note, most (sane) agents document their official conversations in detail, especially with superiors.

    Mr. Comey got to be the director of FBI because he is shrewd, prepared, and able to manipulate his environment and perceptions.

     
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  3. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    As I recall, he said that with previous Presidents, he did not feel the need to document every one-on-one conversation. He want into detail of his interactions with JWB and Obama.
    I don't think you can catch a guy like him in perjury, especially in comments he volunteers, unprompted. For the reasons you stated. He knows what he's doing. Mr. Trump may have met a guy even better at image management than himself.
     
  4. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Things we learned from Comey's testimony;

    1. Trump was never under investigation

    2. Trump never obstructed justice

    3. Trump did not collude with Russia

    4. Russia didn't alter the outcome of the election

    5. Comey leaked his own memo

    6. AG Loretta Lynch pressured Comey to cover for Hillary Clinton

    7. There was ample evidence to prosecute Hillary Clinton, but Comey chose not to

    8. CNN and other mainstream media outlets have been lying and fabricating news this entire time

    9. The Democrats have lost any and all credibility when they scream "RUSSIA!!!!" every time Trump tries to do something

    10. The Russia collusion conspiracy story is dead; anyone who keeps trying to resuscitate it and push it will look insane to the American people

    Keep talking, former Director Comey!!
     
  5. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    You might hope that the story is dead but the fact is that the investigations have really just gotten started. Comey's role in this will be rather small in the end. Now it's possible that Mueller, Congress and the Senate will find nothing and if that's the result then I'll be satisfied that justice was served. But it's quite premature to say that the story is over. The Watergate investigation lasted over a year before Nixon was forced to resign. This will go on for months and months.
     
  6. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    A colossal waste of time and money, pushed forward by sore losers who just can't accept the results of an election.
     
  7. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Yeah, it sorta reminds you of that whole "birther" thing, doesn't it?
     
  8. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    The thing first proposed by Hillary Clinton?

    Funny, I don't remember any lengthy, costly Congressional "investigations" into that.......
     
  9. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I suppose you're right about that part. Still, you can only say that the current investigations are a waste once they're over and have turned up nothing. I figure you're a good enough cop not to presuppose the results of an investigation until it's wrapped up.
     
  10. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member

    Reminds me of all those investigations into Hillary about Benghazi and her other related "stuff". It's almost as if it's political theater, a show if you will, pretend with no real consequences no matter who's in power or who is being investigated. There are some red ties and some blue ties and the rest of us. As long as we argue, pontificate, and point fingers our heros continue on continuing on.

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  11. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    When charges are put forth by "unnamed sources" in the ridiculously biased mainstream media, and the search for evidence turns up absolutely, positively nothing at all after 7 months, then every cop I know would have closed the case a long time ago, and not wasted anymore man-hours or money on tilting at windmills.
     
  12. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I guess you know more about that than I do but maybe I've got a little more faith in the FBI and the DoJ. I think they're serious people doing a serious job and they will take the time they need to do a good job. I can wait for their reports before I make up my mind.
     
  13. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member


    What are the investigations? What is being investigated? If you're thinking 'Trump' then you should think again.
     
  14. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Well, I suspect that you're aware that the Congress, the Senate and the FBI all have been investigating possible connections between the Russian government and members of the Trump campaign. This began with Manafort, then Flynn. Other people have been named as possible "persons of interest" but it's not always clear, from day to day, how and in which direction the investigation is moving. An example of this is that Trump himself has not been a subject of investigation. Until now

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/special-counsel-is-investigating-trump-for-possible-obstruction-of-justice/2017/06/14/9ce02506-5131-11e7-b064-828ba60fbb98_story.html?utm_term=.d2ea25833967
     
  15. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member


    Are these the same people that said he was under investigation before. The same "sources" that had been leaking information for months that all turned out to be false. This is crazy haha.
     
  16. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member


    Yeah, I'm aware of the nameless sources of the latest vague, kinda, maybe allegations. I'm also aware that both Comey and Coats have in testimony cleared Trump of attempting to obstruct justice.

    Manafort and Flynn? Again? This thing is being dragged out just to keep the suggestion of impropriety on the front page.
     
  17. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Comey, Rogers and Coats all indicated that there were things they could not say in an open, public session. Comey and Rogers have now testified in closed, classified sessions. Rogers testimony was the day before the Post article saying that Trump was now under investigation. Coats testifies today. Clearly things are being said in these closed sessions that you (and I) know nothing about. None of Mueller's investigation is conducted in public. None of us are aware of these closed testimonies so I don't know how you can be so sure of everything that coming out.

    And yes, Manafort and Flynn are still being investigated. They haven't even been charged yet. Flynn asked for immunity and was turned done. The safe bet is that he's going to jail OR provide testimony against ?someone? in an immunity deal. It's not going away just because you've prematurely decided it's silly.
     
  18. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    And I spoke to what they did say.

    I'm sure of what has come out.

    You're awfully hot to jail someone for reasons to be determined.
     
  19. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Based on what has come out, he has broken Federal felony laws and there's at least some reason to believe that he did it knowingly. These are crimes that typically result in jail time. That's just a fact and has nothing to do with "what I want." My personal feelings are that this man (Flynn) is probably no real danger to anyone and so locking him up might not accomplish anything toward the public welfare. In the end it might be better to give him some sort of immunity deal in order to get his full testimony. His reputation is seriously tarnished and that might be the biggest punishment he'll get. Still, he'll land on his feet. I'm sure he has many friends who will help him through these tough times and he clearly has many skills that some employer will value.
     
  20. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    If it has come out that he has "broken Federal felony laws" then can you give some indication as to what are those laws?

    "These are" crimes are absolutely the worst sort.

    You speculate well.
     

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