DeSantis faces both reality and oblivion.

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  1. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Just dropped out and endorsed (of course) Trump.
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Oblivion? Normally, I'd ask to hold off on that. Nixon is the prototype for political comebacks, having been held under Ike's heel for 8 years, losing to JFK, and then losing the California governor's race and declaring himself done with politics, only to be elected president 6 years later.

    But DeSantis is no Nixon. So, yeah. Bye, Ron!
     
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  3. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Annnnd...he's term limited!
     
  4. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    If he uses what will soon be plentiful spare time for introspection, do you think in time his eyes might regrow pupils and his image reappear in mirrors? Or should we just quietly file his coffin in the crypt under the statehouse?
     
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  5. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    So who is left? Just Hayley and the Trumpster Fire?
     
  6. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Well Nikki Haley and Donald are the last major candidates left. It's looking likely that Haley will drop out soon. I hope not but that's the likely reality. If SCOTUS surprises me and rules that Trump cannot serve another term as President then what? Has anyone ever dropped out of a presidential race and then rejoined the race in the same year before?
     
  7. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    So there is a possibility that former President Trump will become US President again?
     
  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Most of his support will move to Trump.

    Trump is going to beat Haley in New Hampshire, then will crush her in South Carolina. That will do it; no need to wait for Super Tuesday. She'll drop out and Trump will be the presumptive nominee from then until the RNC in July.

    As for the VP slot, we see Stefanik stepping up. She's on my short list. (Noem and Huckabee Sanders are the others.) But he's known for using people for his own ends. I would not be at all surprised to see her serve as his loyal lapdog for now--because Noem and Sanders have actual jobs--only to be dumped later in favor of one of the other two. Or someone else? Not a nut who could distract from his own nuttiness. And not another Establishment Republican--he tries to get them hung.
     
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  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    This is pointless.
     
  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Perot dropped out at his peak popularity, then got back in later. He explained that Bush threatened his family.
     
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  11. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I wanted NH to earn the GOP nomination.
    One thing during the debates that I heard that got me concerned is related to politization of gov agencies, affecting agencies such as EPA and firing many gov employees "non supporters".
    I didn't think it wasn't a good strategy in the past and still don't support it. Leads to monarchy not democracy.
     
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Yes, Trump openly admits that he wants to reinstate the spoils system that was in place in Washington until the civil service reforms of 1883. Talk about a step backwards!
     
  13. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Sure, there's a chance Trump will win in November. There's always been a non-trivial possibility. That's what scares me. But Trump has never won a popular vote and hasn't been an asset to the GOP at any point since the 2016 general election. He expanded his base in 2020 but his antics expanded the Democrat base even more.

    I don't think he has made many converts since 2021. The 2022 election was very unusual in delivering so little to the party out of the White House. The Red Ripple took the pundits by surprise, but Trump had a hand in it.

    Now he seems to be losing his marbles as well as his court cases. It's still too early to trust polls but Biden is gradually pulling ahead which is what I'd expect. On the other hand, I have a dismal record predicting elections!
     
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  14. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    At bottom, Trump SCARES people.
     
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Apparently his polling among black Americans and Latinos is up from 2016 and 2020.
     
  16. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Maybe a little but it's still too early to tell.
     
  17. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Back to DeSantis...I guess "Never Back Down" backed down.
     
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  18. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    David Frum is predicting a "Biden blowout" in November. Don't know why he's so sure.
     
  19. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Me either. I wonder whether people discount Trump from wishful thinking, even after 2016.
     
  20. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure, but I won't be surprised.
     

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