Conservative (Neo-Cons which are really fake conservatives) booklist

It was Eisenhower who first sent U.S. troops into Vietnam. Or are you saying that if the war in Iraq is still going on in 2008 and a Democrat should happen to be elected to the White House at that time, said war would be her fault?

Eisenhower was a Republican, by the way. Now who needs the history lesson.

I got two words for you: Patriot Act.

Old Southern Democrats kinda' don't count. They were many times in name only.

And do you have any idea how ridiculous it looks for a conservative to be taking credit for promoting civil rights?

Gimmee a break.

 

First, you're wrong. Ike sent in several hundred civilian and military advisors, not troops.

Second, on Feb. 7, 1962, under JFK, 4,000 troops go in and then they begin to flood the country (thousands between 1962 and 1963).

Third, if Southern Democrats don't count, then don't put all Republicans in your small box, okay? You can't have it both ways. You cannot castigate a whole party as if everyone marched in lockstep and then turn around and make exceptions in another party.

Fourth, don't call me a conservative. I bet I have marched in more civil rights marches then you and I bet you are not now nor were ever a member of the NAACP, I was!

Take care, buddy!

 

Jimmy - a member of the NAACP? Wow - I would have never known.

Of course I am a card carrying member of the ACLU and NRA because they both support the bill of rights so I guess wonders will never cease.

 

Kidding? Well, what I know of Liberals I read here or hear on Air America and from Liberal Politians. What a load of you know what. According to AA everything every conservative politician has ever done is all about greed and theft and dishonesty. Oh to be back to the "honest" Clinton years! God save us all!

 

Never been in the NRA and wouldn't but have been a member of the ACLU until they became dangerously anti-American.

 

Ohboy... that old dodge again. If they're in green uniforms with helmets, full ammo belts, and loaded weapons on their shoulders, they're troops. A rose by any other name...

Ohgod... are we really gonna' get into this? You write as though it was an act in isolation, or that there was much other that he could do and still be responsible, given what he knew.

But I can take the times into consideration. Today's Democratic party is not what it was then. I was talking about then, not now.

And today's Republican party is not what it was even when Reagan was president. Heck, Nixon is starting to look good to me right about now. When I complain about Republicans, I'm talking about now, and the travesty of ultra-right-wing, ultra-conservative, fundamentalist religious wrongheadedness it has become.

That I do get to put into my small box... buddy.

But you are conservative. How can you say you're not with a straight face? C'mon... who do you think you're kiddin', here?

Betcha' haven't! And dare I ask on which side of the issue you marched? Strike that. Low blow. Sorry.

Ohboy... the old "some of my best friends are black" rebuttal, repackaged.

Well, that's an overstatement, of course... but I get your point. And at least your listening. That's more than I'm willing to give Rush Limbaugh.

Other than as regards his you-know-what in Monica's mouth, when did Bill Clinton ever lie to you? Seriously. Think about it... and be fair.

 

Heck, I VOTED for Nixon in 1972! And I was right to do so, I still think.

No, the GOP has crafted an unholy alliance between the ultra Right Christian groups and the Ultra wealthy and powerful ("My base" as GWB referred to them.)

This wasn't Nixon's GOP.

 

BOTH of those groups don't amount to a good piss in the wind. It is by persuading the vast middle class that the Republicans have come to control both the Presidential office and Congress. At the same time we hear Democrats saying protectionism is the way to save the country. Don't they realize China is the next HUGE market? Protectionism will just seal us in third or fourth place. Where are the Democrats with positive ideas that can actually work instead of just trying to relive the 50s and 60s?!

 

That is just it. Clinton didn't do anything other than take credit for the economy which he had nothing to do with! Thank god! If he had it would have been an unholy mess. Instead we were lucky enough to have a Democrat who gave in at every turn. This, apparently, was and is the best the Democrats can do.

P.S. Rush is a joke. He may be enertaining to listen to but truth and reality aren't a big concern for him. If A.A. is copying that we can all turn 'em off right now and put the time to productive use.

 

Despite DesElms' tippity tap, you are correct. Eisenhower did not want to get bogged down in a land war in Asia. That's why he brought Truman's Korean conflict to a stalemated end.

 

Straight face? You mean when Clinton looked into the camera and told millions of Americans he didn't have sex "with that woman"?

No, I am not a conservative.

1. I support gun control
2. I am against capital punishment
3. I think gays should be accorded full equal rights including the right to marry in the secular world.
4. I support stronger EPA standards.
5. I support free health care for the poor.
6. I am opposed to usings animals for lab research.
7. I don't support the space program.
8. I oppose seat belt and helmet laws.
9. I support a woman's right to prostitute her body if she wishes.
10.I don't believe in entrapment by law enforcement agencies.

Doesn't sound like a conservative to me.

 

Jimmy
I am a bit confused. You support gun control but you have your own CCW?

Are you against capital punishment and abortion as well? Is this for the reasons that it both entails killing? If so, you definitely don't follow the GW rhetoric. If killing is wrong, then all killing is wrong except if it is the direct defense of your own life (or the life of another). Good argument.

Personally, I support the death penalty and beleive it should be expanded for serial pedophiles. I support a women's right to choose (although I don't support abortion in my own case). I do, however, don't have any qualms about accepting that both acts as killing- of course they are.

 

Gun control, not gun confiscation. There is a difference.

Yes, I oppose abortion. GW rhetoric? I am not a diehard Republican. I have a mind of my own. I support the President but I don't agree with him on every issue.

 

Yeah. Kinda' like that.

Notwithstanding your list, below, most of the opinions you express here are those of a conservative... and don't make me go search through all your posts and prove it. I'm already behind on post scanning for the Trinity Newburgh thread.

Well, hell... even I support that! See this thread.

You live in Indiana. I'm pretty sure it's a law there that you have to oppose helmet laws.

Oh, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. Oh, no. Oh, man... I wish I didn't know this about you. [huge sigh] Oh, man. This makes me sad.

I don't... [sigh]... you know what... I can't continue right now. I'm done here.

 

Just out of curiosity, Jimmy, why would a woman actually wish to prostitute her body? More importantly, how do you reconcile such a position with being a man of God?

 

And what should we use? Human subjects? Maybe even grad students specifically?

 

Yes, to marry in the secular world. But not to profane the sacrament of marriage by requiring a minister to marry Adam and Steve when his holy writ tells him that homosexuality is an abomination.

 

I didn't say I approve of prostitution, I don't. I think it's a sin and shameful and demeaning and lacks self-respect.

However, in a free society, it's her business, not mine or anyone else's.

 

This makes you sad but two men or two women having sex doesn't? Odd, very odd.

 

Hey homie, why would you have to search? You come across as so sure of my political positions you should be able to rattle them off.

I bet you can't name or find 10 conservative positions of mine on any posts to counter the 10 liberal positions I listed.

Wanna bet? (gentleman's bet, of course).