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  1. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

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    Hmmm Rocco. A board that did nothing but promote degree mills and rejoice in the agony of the near death of a person. I think Gus had it right. I don't think it was an attack in the least.
     
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  2. rocco5

    rocco5 member

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    Not really. The question is about fraud, not academic merit. What the reputation of the school is and how its degrees carry is separate from the issue of fraud. If Hayes is honest about how he got his degree and from where, he is not committing fraud. How you or academe rate his degree is another issue. You may choose to accept it as sufficient for his purposes or not.

    Of course, legal and worthy are different. Unfortunately, the title DR. for a ULC Ph.D. is just as legal as for a Harvard Ph.D. You can't make the law distinguish the dcotorates in name, only in some cases it may disitnguish how you may use them.

    I am certainly not a degree mill advocate in any conventional sense. But if folks want to obtain legal but low-class titles, who am I to say otherwise. I can only judge the academic merit of each individual's accomplishment on an indivdual basis. That's my point. Fraud is a legal matter. Good or bad degrees is in another realm except in legally controlled professions.
     
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  3. rocco5

    rocco5 member

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    Foul and hateful speech is very unchristian, but that was an unmoderated forum. Numbers of posters did not indulge in such foul abuse. Jimmy Cliffton posted there, for example: is he a piece of excrement, too ?

    There seems to be more than a bit of moral outrage directed against mills around here. There's plenty wrong with "legitimate" education, too, but I don't see the moral outrage directed there.
     
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  4. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

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    Actually Jimmy had basically stopped posting there. I can't blame him in the least. Yes there is alot of outrage here about degree mills and especially people that support them. This seems totally reasonable and justified. I also see posts about problems in education in general. Since this is not the focus of this board, there are less of them. Nothing wrong with that in the least.

    P.S. Of the alternative boards, the one that got it most right was distancedegree.net under the moderation of Quinn. It was a bit of wild west, but clearly straight and for the most part unbiased.
     
  5. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

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    I liked Peter - he took out the trash.
     
  6. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

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    I liked him too, in spite of the fact that, to this day, he still can't differentiate between shit and Shinola, or what really constitutes trash (as evidenced by the company he keeps and who considers him a friend).
     

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