Charles Sturt University (Australia)

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  1. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    This is way cool. As I've always said, there is little or no difference in the way these two types of schools are required to operate.

    Altruism has little to do with whether or not a school will continue to operate a financially instable program. When I was on faculty at San Diego State, several departments faced severe cutbacks. The school had to cut somewhere, so they cut the less popular ones. Sounds reasonable, unless you were one of the students faced with changing either your major or your school! (Last time I checked SDSU was a public school and, therefore, not proprietary! [​IMG] )

    Rich Douglas
     
  2. Peter French

    Peter French member

    I said '...all mostly...' and generally it can be negotiated around - refer to other posts/threads by Tom Head and others. IU doubt if you would be on the ANU list and most here wouldn't consider it as it is specialised in most areas. UQ and Melbourne are last century traditionals and a lot of lcals wouldn't have them on their list. UQ issued its first DE degree in the 1880's.



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    Peter French,
    MEd MAcc (UNE) CMA
    Australia
     
  3. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    In real life decision-makers do not verify credentials prior to an interview... this may not be the case in Douglasland but it is the case everywhere else. Furthermore the decision maker can can zip off an e-mail to an office or associate in the other country and within a day have the reputation of the school. Furthermore, the "foreign" nature of the school could very well get you the interview if the international nature of your educational background is desirable.

    I would take Charles Sturt. These "for-profit" schools have a reputation for being degree factories and a degree is too big an investment to rely on a line in CHEA guide and a hope that someone has heard of the city but not the school.

     
  4. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    Time to wake up from your dream and face reality. Both a software company and a church need to do the same things, attract a congregation, pay staff, fund overhead, etc. However to say that there is no practical difference between the two is pretty bizarre... the bottom lines are completely different. In certain areas a non-profit will not "cut-corners" because to do so would undercut the institutions reason for existence. However a for-profit school will cut-corners as long as it improves the bottom line. To suggest that there is not a market willing to pay for easy degrees and that there are not "schools" willing to provide them is simply ignorant of reality.

     
  5. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    Of course the question could be raised "exactly what level of quality does RA provide?"

     
  6. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    Good point!

     
  7. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    It is ranked low in Australia but I wouldn't loose sleep over it. Australia has fairly consistent standards... not that much difference between worst and first.

     
  8. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    Feelings.... nothing more than, feelings.

    My feeling is that a lot of this is just a matter of name recognition
     
  9. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    The issue is whether a school lower standards in order to serve the market and increase profits or whether it maintains high standards but innovates to better serve a market and generate additional revenue to further improve the school or subsidize a revenue negative program.

     
  10. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    Good Point!


     
  11. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    The UK situation is that the universities realized two things a) knowledgable people from around the globe recognize the UK as have a very high-quality education system (i.e. they have a brand) b) they can "export" this high-quality education and utilized the funds to further improve the system. Hard to complain about this.

    This is much different than the schools who race to the bottom in mass-producing degrees.


     
  12. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    Yeh man, groovy... to bad it isn't true dude, catch-ya on the flip-side... I'm out.


     
  13. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I think a very reliable one. Of course, the same question could be asked of a British Royal Charter or Act of Parliament.

    Bruce
     
  14. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    Lewchuk,

    I'd appreciate it if you'd focus on the issues and substance of the discussions and not go after the people making the comments.

    Thanks for your help.


    Chip
    Forum administrator
     
  15. al-doori

    al-doori New Member

    I have contact the IT School and they said that I need to visit the univ. at least once / year for PhD in Information studies. No 100 % nonresidential.
    Is it acceptable to teach at universities using CSU PhD degree?
     
  16. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member


    I didn't know about this, the business department doesn't have this requirement. I believe that in a field as Computer Science is really the quality of your research that it counts, in my university we have faculty with degrees from Autralia, Israel, India, Germany, France, Finland and many others. The criteria for hiring is good teaching experience and quality research.
     

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