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  1. MaceWindu

    MaceWindu Active Member

  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    This seems to be REALLY Conservative. Highlighted where schools reject Social Justice Movement, Critical Race Theory etc.
    To me, that means this report tends to favour institutions that openly don't hold with ideas of racial equality, gender equality, LGBTQ+ equality.

    You be the judge. Doesn't affect me - I'm not looking for a religious school.

    The report also cited unaccredited Trinity (Indiana) as one of the "best and most affordable.

    That school's 50-year long history of endorsements, validations and non-accreditation is detailed in a link below. "Lifers" here at DI probably remember the "Yellow Liverpool Stickers" on diplomas when the school had a validation agreement with U. Liverpool. That was followed by an application for Regional Accreditation that came to Candidate status, but ultimately failed, Then came "endorsements" from Canterbury Christ Church University in UK. Subsequently the school had a validation agreement with the University of Wales Consortium. When that consortium folded, due to controversy over 200 overseas validations, with little or no oversight, Trinity later applied for DEAC accreditation, which was considered and denied. Today? Well, no accreditation but at least it's licensed by the State of Indiana.

    You can read the Trinity story here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_College_of_the_Bible_and_Theological_Seminary

    "One of the best and most affordable?" smh - J. Again, you be the judge.
     
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  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Here's a school they like:
    Veritas International University

    Veritas International University is a member of the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools (TRACS). Veritas has a public statement against Critical Race Theory and similar ideologies.


    And here's a school they DON'T like:
    What about Dallas Theological Seminary? BIOLA?
    Avoid. The infiltration of error via a CSJ ideology makes these schools ones to avoid for the conservative Christian.

    'Nuff said.
     
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  4. Michael Burgos

    Michael Burgos Active Member

    I think the Capstone Report is a worthless rag. However, your post and its responses certainly demonstrate how the values and institutional ideals of those who seem to live on this board tend to be completely out of step with others. Caveat lector.
     
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  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Being in-step or out-of-step is a matter of others' opinion. What I wrote is my opinion and clearly stated as such. I encouraged others to be their own judge. And of course, that includes you - as I knew it would. I can't see how that warrants a "caveat lector" warning - but never mind. Your opinion is yours. You're entitled. As is everyone else.

    "Worthless rag?" Yes. My take: it's a pernicious rag. But. as I said, I have no horse in the race. It's my 81st birthday today - but PLEASE don't gift me with a horse. I'm not going to enter the race. I said before: I'm not looking for a religious school. What I'm against here, I don't see as having much to do with religion. I believe it's a fabricated, man-made attempt to return "the flock" to the "good old days" of rampant inequality and discrimination, by "cloaking" a repressive, reactionary "doctrine" in religious-and-virtuous-sounding guise. Not buying it. YMMV.
     
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  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    And as evidence, I offer the linked copy, above, of Veritas University's public statement on "Critical Race Theory and similar ideologies." The blue link in Post #3. As before - I encourage each reader to be their own judge.

    @Michael Burgos. "Out of step?" Let's just say I march to a different drummer.
     
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  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    These institutions may indeed be REALLY Conservative, but if so it's not because they reject the hallmarks of far left identitarianism.

    Besides, those in the Social Justice movement don't even pretend their goal is equality anymore, that's why they stopped using that word in favor of the more conveniently malleable "equity".
     
  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Max Roach --Art Blakey -- Philly Joe Jones -- Ed Thigpen -- and for variety, Ringo Starr, at times. LOTS of stellar drummers out there, past and present. :)
     
  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    The "adherents" painted over the original definition. I didn't. I liked the original. Same with Critical Race Theory. 'Woke" became, for many, a term of insult. I think the folks at Capstone Report don't like the original or the painted-over definitions, in this scenario. They want same-old, same-old, complete with its hereditary warts intact. Racial, socio-economic and sexual orientation inequalities and discrimination. I don't like those warts. They're harmful to people who don't deserve harm.
     
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  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    deleted J.
     
  11. MaceWindu

    MaceWindu Active Member

    Came back to do a follow up post about the conservative views on the website. Did not expect any responses. No complaints. Here I go.

    Later saw how the website was emphasizing “conservative views” over best and cheap. Should have included, in the original post, that it seems best and cheap was taking a back seat to specific conservative views. Point, don’t attend said school because of certain views or classes that school teaches even though the school is on the list.

    Do apologize.
     
  12. MaceWindu

    MaceWindu Active Member

    Saw that about DTS and was shocked to say the least.
     
  13. MaceWindu

    MaceWindu Active Member

    Happy Birthday and you speak the truth -“I believe it's a fabricated, man-made attempt to return "the flock" to the "good old days" of rampant inequality and discrimination, by "cloaking" a repressive, reactionary "doctrine" in religious-and-virtuous-sounding guise. Not buying it.”
     
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Me? Live on this board? Yeah - you could say that, easily. I've reached a goal - a real milestone. My years in retirement (31) have finally exceeded my f/t working years (30). One of the key measurements of retirement success, I think, is - do you live where and how you want?

    I thank DI for allowing me to "live on the board" as I do, and thereby achieve some measure of retirement success. :) So, Good afternoon and "caveat lector" to y'all. It's gonna be a good day! :)
     
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  15. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member


    Exxccuusssee me...Neil Peart? Back to your regularly scheduled program
     
  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Definitely! :) A Canadian Icon. Born in my town, Hamilton ON. in the year I got here - 1952. My sons grew up with Rush. I think I kinda grew up along with them. Rest in peace, Neil. A great and renowned musician.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Peart
     
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  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Thanks indeed for that. You made my day! And thanks for agreeing, in this instance, that:

    "I ain't lyin'.
    I ain't lyin'.
    I ain't lyin', no.
    'Cause I've seen it a thousand times." ("I ain't Lyin' - Little Charlie Baty and the Night Cats)

    Good song. Complete lyrics here: ttps://www.google.com/search?q=I+Ain%27t+lyin%27+Little+Charlie+Baty+lyrics
     
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  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Little Charlie Baty left the Night Cats some years ago. They were, and continue to be, a great blues-oriented band.
    Nowadays, Rick Estrin - long known as a first-rate blues harmonica player, is leader - and has taken over doing lead vocals.

    Google: (2023)

    RICK ESTRIN and THE NIGHTCATS are now comprised of Rick Estrin on vocals and harmonica; Kid Anderson (Charlie Musselwhite Band) on guitar and vocals; Lorenzo Farrell (Elvin Bishop Band) on piano and organ; Derrick D'Mar Martin (Little Richard's drummer for 17 years) on drums.

    Can't beat THESE guys for experience! Or chops! :)
     
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  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I consider this a very eloquent article on the history and original meanings of "woke" and "Critical Race theory" (both Black-originated terms) - and how and by whom the terms were "morphed" -- and the stupid things that have happened as a result, e.g. De Santis' "Anti-Woke Act." Grab a coffee - it's a lengthy, good read as I see it.

    It comes from Refinery 29, a publication that has been very helpful to me in learning about the issues of importance to women and minorities.

    Google: "Refinery29 is the leading media and entertainment destination focused on women and underrepresented voices. Through a wide spectrum of lifestyle stories, shareable content, and experiences, Refinery29 provides inspiration and tools to discover and pursue a more independent and informed life."

    https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2023/02/11253627/woke-meaning-co-opted-politics
     
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  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

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