BAC ACCREDITATION

I think of this more comedically than seriously - but I digress . . . I think the folks who would put Charisma University on their résumé with a straight face come from the same demographic that would list Oral Roberts University or Jimmy Swaggart Bible College.

 

https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=ACBSP&sort=date

 

Well, the pattern seems to be that every few months some newbie appears and wants to tell everyone what a great school Charisma is. Then some other people, myself included, feel the need to balance the message a bit. At the same time, no one wants to get sued. So there’s that

 

I think you maybe want to read through what you just posted. Because it isn't saying what I think you think it's saying.

I never said ACBSP accredited schools don't hire staff and faculty. I said I've never seen an ACBSP accredited degree be an employment requirement. And, of the first three job postings you just listed, that suspicion is confirmed. The job postings just mention that the school is ACBSP accredited but the requirements for the job are vague, requiring only "an accredited" degree.

Is it really your contention that an ACBSP accredited school wouldn't hire someone with an AACSB accredited degree? Come now, consider the logical conclusion of what you're saying before you fling links around.

 

I didn't mean Charisma, specifically, I just mean how every thread about an ASIC or BAC accredited school becomes "Well uhh...BAC is obviously a criminal conspiracy and probably has links to Al Qaeda" level mudslinging. BAC has a very limited focus. There is no indication that they make a habit of abusing that focus. They never misrepresent what accreditation means as it is understood in the UK. Just we, used to a different usage of the same word, interpret it differently. Clearly ASIC is OK with that confusion insofar as it drives revenue toward them. But BAC seems far more neutral.

I was responding to the challenge to show a legitimate school with institutional accreditation through BAC and I'm pointing out that they aren't institutional accreditors. They never claimed to be institutional accreditors.

 

LOL, I didn't actually say anything, nor did I say you said any of those things, so I'm not sure what my contention would be. I simply posted the link to no one in particular as an aid to anyone who might be curious to get a glimpse of what's out there and hadn't considered Indeed. And yes, I did read through what I posted otherwise I wouldn't have posted it.

Langston University: "Preference will be placed on candidate with ACBSP or AACSB credentials and/or experience".

Notre Dame of Maryland University: "Faculty are expected to take part fully in the life of the University, including advising students, engaging in faculty governance and assisting actively in the work of the Department. Professional and scholarly development consistent with ACBSP standards are expected."

Bowie State University: [successful candidate will] "Serve as a liaison with the ACBSP and others that the College will consider in the future such as ACBSP for the Accounting program and the Association of Advance Collegiate Schools of Business (AACSB). Organize and coordinate workshops on accreditation to assist faculty in meeting the standards of each accrediting body, maintaining ACBSP and NASPAA and any other accreditation such as AACSB that the College will seek in the future."

Seems pretty straightforward and not vague at all, and that was just in the fourth, fifth and sixth spots. There were more. Maybe you should've kept reading after the first three. Peace

 

I said I had never seen a job posting where that was a preference. A few posts later, a link with no context. Now you want to shrug your shoulders and smirk and say "What? I didn't say anything!" If you were a television lawyer or a 7 year old, I might find that sort of thing clever. I realize I'm not the brightest bulb in the box but please don't treat me like a complete moron. You know what you said. You know why you said it. If you didn't want to be challenged on it and have a discussion then don't post it in the first place.

Also, you realize that you just gave three examples where only the first one expresses that preference, right?

"Professional and scholarly development consistent with ACBSP standards" is not the same as requiring a degree be from an ACBSP school.

Serving as a liaison with the ACBSP and conducting workshops on accreditation "to assist faculty in meeting the standards of each accrediting body" is not the same thing as requiring an ACBSP degree.

It does, indeed, seem pretty straightforward and not vague at all. But since two of your three examples actually support my original contention, thanks I guess?

 

You're really losing it now. I didn't even read any of your posts in this thread until the one I replied to where you constructed an argument on my behalf for some strange reason. I posted it after reading one of Steve's posts and thought it might be helpful for anyone curious. I know why I posted it, and it's for the exact reason I stated in the previous post. I have done the same thing other times and never gotten such a bizarre reaction. If I wanted to address you directly I would have just like I have many other times over the years, just like I am doing right now. There is no fear of being challenged by you or anyone else for that matter. As for the 7 year old bit, it's ironic given that you're acting like one right now.

I realize that I posted three examples of very specific desired qualifications.

I couldn't possibly care less. I didn't post anything to you claiming it was the exact same thing. However, I think if a school is asking for your background to be "consistent with ACBSP standards" having a degree from that fold and/or experience with it are obviously desirable qualifications that will help your chances, otherwise they wouldn't have specifically written it that way.

If that gives you a sense of winning, fine. You're still making a spectacle of yourself with this one, creating an argument where none was presented. I guess now posting a link in context to a discussion that has more than one person mentioning the same thing is now an argument directed at a single person, even if the post does not actually direct itself to a single person. Crazy, but duly noted. The only question is, will you bring that same energy when I post a link in context again someplace else and take it as an argument directed at you? And, will you go back and do that with every other post where I've done the same in the past? Gotta be consistent, right? This is all kinds of crazy, lol.

 

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Ehhh, I wouldn't quit my day job with that one.

He does that at least once a year. We all have our moods. This one is a little stranger than usual though because usually there is something said that can be dissected. I didn't see anything from a weblink that called for that kind of response, but now maybe I'm next just by saying that, hahaha. This forum is always entertaining.

 

Gosh, and we were just talking about being short two lame insults. Thank goodness you stepped right up. Thanks.

 

Anyway, I was asking about Charisma University because I was surprised, shocked that they had ACBSP accreditation not only for their Bachelor and Master degrees but also for the PhD degrees in business and accounting.
In comparing for example Liberty University (DBA Business) vs. Charisma University (PhD Business) and U of Cumberlands (PhD/DBA Business) all in the area of accounting, Liberty's PhD is not ACBSP, Cumberlands is not ACBSP but Charisma University is.
Now, what of course I would really like to know is whether a university would hire someone with experience and a degree from one of these universities to teach/research at their university.

 

https://www.purdueglobal.edu/degree-programs/business/acbsp-accreditation/
Purdue is very proud of its ACBSP accreditation
So no, I have no dog in the game with any of these universities, but I would like to get a DBA/PhD in Accounting on the cheaper and quicker side from a respectable enough institution to allow me to have a chance with my experience to teach/research at a uni.

 

Hahaha. Oh, Rich. I wasn't insulting you, just merely mentioning that the treatment wasn't funny. But I sincerely apologize for not feeding your narcissistic needs. As we all know, everything you do is truly the greatest thing ever. Truly.

I also didn't insult our dear Neuhaus. He went nuts for no reason and was acting paranoid. That's just what happened. I didn't make it happen, I just pointed out what was already obvious. I'm sure you'll all be much better after your naps... well, he'll be better after a nap. Your sense of humor? That's going to require a coma, the subsequent neurological changes, and luck.

Take care

 

Hmmmmm . . . An intrinsic difference between Rich/Neuhaus and Max:

We know who Rich and Neuhaus are. Those who have been here for a time know both of their full names, where they are from, what they do, and what degrees and credentials they hold.

We know none of the above about Max, who uses the fictional moniker of a 1960's TV character.

I know which two of the three I'm going to credit with legitimacy, and I'm not leaning toward including the anonymous one in that list.

That's my only (and final) comment on this, since Max has already trashed me in the past (and will now probably do so again). But that's cool, since he's an anonymous troll. (Enjoy, Max.)

 

Hmmmm... I hear a strange, irrelevant voice coming faintly from the distance. It sounds like the voice of an old, extremely ignorant, immature, irrelevant little man that is totally full of anger and full of himself, who engages in the cowardly act of viciously attacking (without provocation) total strangers looking for help, and thinks others see him as this important figure he has deluded himself into believing he is. He also (despite having had access to the internet for decades) doesn't seem to know what "troll" means in the internet context but uses the word constantly to describe anyone who won't worship him and his mostly worthless contributions that only mental midgets and self-loathing doormats praise. I'm going to ignore that irrelevant voice however, because that's what should be done with irrelevance.

Ahhh, the voice stopped. Maybe he's fallen asleep. Now, if only he doesn't wake up, then we don't have to hear that annoying irrelevant voice that contributes absolutely nothing useful ever again...

 

This is an area without a lot of traffic, so it is difficult to speak with authority.

Irrespective of its (provisional) accreditation by ACBSP, it would be a good idea to confirm that a degree from a school based in a British territory, but does not award British degrees, would be acceptable in the first place. I don't recall that ever being established.

In other words, just because a regionally accredited school gets its business programs accredited by ACBSP, that doesn't make the school responsible for whatever else ACBSP decides to accredit. I wouldn't count on reciprocity merely for that.

 

What a belligerent little person!

 

Personally, I would rather have no degree than a Charisma degree.

 

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