BAC ACCREDITATION

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Elbulk, May 16, 2018.

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  1. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Is that your...Basic Instinct?
     
  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Deleted - J.
     
  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Wow! BAC sure gets around! For an outfit said by at least one genuine expert to have no remit outside UK, they have successfully persuaded schools in all these countries to sign up for BAC accreditation:

    Bulgaria (2)
    Chile (1)
    Czech Republic (1)
    Egypt (1)
    Greece (7)
    Guernsey (1)
    Hong Kong (1)
    Lebanon (1)
    Mauritius (1)
    Mongolia (1) Wow! Long reach, BAC! I'm impressed!
    Qatar (1)
    Saudi Arabia (1)
    South Africa (1)
    Sudan (1)
    Switzerland (3)
    UAE (1)
    United Kingdom (201)
    West Africa (1)
    West Indies (2)

    And, of course, Turks and Caicos (1) - as previously discussed. What kind of magic are they using?:)
     
  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Oh right - Turks and Caicos is West Indies. Silly me!
     
  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    AS I'm interested in all things Mongolian (except the drink - I can't stand kumiss or suutei-tsai) I went to the website of Ikh Zasag International U. in Mongolia. No distance ed. that I could see. Website half in English (a good effort) and half in Mongolian, using modified Cyrillic (Russian) alphabet that remains in common usage from Soviet days. As with most Mongolian institutions, the name evokes Genghis Khan. Ikh Zasag (I'm told) means "Great Governance" - a name given to Genghis Khan's reign. Looks like a credible school - and they do indeed have foreign students. And satellite campuses in Japan and South Korea. Genghis would have approved heartily! :)

    BTW - there is a Mongolian Alphabet, still used at times. I've heard it's making a bit of a comeback in post-Soviet days. That alphabet is based on Sogdian (Persian-domiciled) script and was learned from one captured Uighur scribe in Genghis' day. I've forgotten his name, but it's recorded. Thanks to the Internet, you can look it up, if you want. One man popularizing an alphabet is a cool thing. Other examples - St. Mesrop Mashtots - Armenian and George Gist (Sequoyah) - Cherokee.
     
  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Sorry - I got a bit wrong. Those branch schools built with Japanese and South Korean cooperation are both in Mongolia. They teach studies appropriate to working with / in the respective countries. Genghis would likely have approved anyway. Good for trade and international relations.
     
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    And two isn't bad, either - viz. Saints Cyril and Methodius, whose partly Greek-derived Cyrillic script is used (with some customization) for Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian and a whole host of other Slavic languages -- and, of course, non-Slavic Mongolian.
    Спасибо, Кирилл и Мефодий! (Thank you, Cyril and Methodius).
     
  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Why would a school purchase this kind of accreditation? Well, perhaps there's something in my favorite Nigerian pidgin saying (I only know a very few.)
    "Na condition wey make crayfish bend." - i.e. conditions sometimes force people to break rules. My take - people (everywhere - not just Nigerians) will do odd things any time they see fit, then justify them by blaming "conditions."
     
  9. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    Rushmore is back! See Mauritius
     
  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    May not be related to BAC
    I read some mention earlier about Higher National Diplomas.
    HND is a valuable qualification in the UK. And the majority of UK universities accept HND into a final year of a bachelors degree or top up to Bachelors degree programs.
    Usually, typical HND is 2 years of FT education.
    In the UK the Vocational qualifications at some levels like 4 or above also have their academic credit.
    Something like the Award up to 12, Certificate 12 to 36, Diploma 36+ credits in the UK.
    Most qualifications have a difficulty level. The higher the level, the more difficult the qualification is.
    Level 4 would be the first year of university, Level 6 qualification usually the final year of a bachelors degree.

    If of interest here is a link to
    Register of Regulated Qualifications

    https://register.ofqual.gov.uk/

    I know people who earned HND or other recognized/accredited Ofqual on level 4 vocational qualifications and above that successfully transferred the qualification into continuing top up University education.
     
  11. Michigan68

    Michigan68 Active Member

    This entry is giving me some confusion.

    The University of New York in Prague (UNYP) was established in 1998. It is accredited as a Higher Education Institution by the Czech Ministry of Education, Youth and Sports and is a large and leading English language university in the Czech Republic. Teaching takes place in English and currently, more than 800 students from more than 60 countries study at UNYP. Lecturers come from the United States, EU and the Czech Republic (more than 20 countries in all), and bring with them both academic and professional backgrounds.

    Our students are advised and nurtured by faculty who will develop their critical thinking, analytical, problem-solving, leadership, and decision-making skills required for career success and a fulfilling life in the 21st century. Further to this the University cooperates closely with a number of multinational companies and offers to the students an exclusive opportunity to apply their new knowledge in practice.

    UNYP offers undergraduate programs in business administration, communication and mass media, finance, marketing, psychology, international economic relations, IT management, and English language and literature. Further to the ministry accreditation UNYP’s business programs are accredited by The International Assembly for Collegiate Business Education (IACBE), USA.
    The 4 year American Bachelor programs at UNYP lead to a degree awarded by SUNY/ESC, as part of the co-operation between the two Institutions.


    My wife and I have been to Prague a few times and we walked by the NYU campus building in Prague. Is NYU the same as UNYP ? Because SUNY is State University or New York, so is that NYU ? Doesnt seem like it due to the order of letters, but it could be the same in New York nomenclature.

    If it is all the same and it is accredited as a Higher Education Institution by the Czech Ministry of Education . . . . . Why would they bother with BAC Accreditation?


    Michael
     
  12. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    New York University has a Prague campus: https://www.nyu.edu/prague.html
     
  13. Michigan68

    Michigan68 Active Member

    I know. I said I walked by it. That wasnt the point of my post.
     
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I have no evidence that this happened - just conjecture on my part. Could BAC accreditation possibly have been "awarded" free of charge - just to raise BAC's own profile? Would have been a great PR move to have BAC's name attached to a legit, prestigious school - and cost BAC virtually nothing!
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Whatever gave you that silly idea? Rushmore Business School, Mauritius is a partner of Coventry University - UK. Says so here. https://www.coventry.ac.uk/international-students-hub/partnerships-and-places-to-study/see-our-partners-across-the-world/rushmore-business-school/ It offers six of Coventry's degrees, to overseas students.

    Nothing whatsoever to do with this school (below), without recognized accreditation, that was incorporated in the Cayman Islands by Dr. Michael Cox (yes, his degree was real) and run from his home office in South Dakota :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rushmore_University
    https://www.rushmore.edu/Faculty/InMemoriam/tabid/104/Default.aspx

    First, do some research. Then, only if appropriate, sound the general alarm!
     
    Last edited: May 22, 2018
  16. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    What is the fun in that?
     
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  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    True. My apologies - forgot about that! :)

    Say, isn't Rushmore (US) the alma mater of a data analytics guru - Dr. Morten Middelfart? (Yes, he's real.)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morten_Middelfart
     
    Last edited: May 23, 2018
  18. mbwa shenzi

    mbwa shenzi Active Member

    I doubt that. BAC has been around since 1984, a joint initiative by the British Council and the UK Department of Education. In my book, BAC beats ASIC hands down.
     
  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    If you say so - then I believe it - a thousand times over. However, people should be aware it's not a substitute for - or supplement to degree-granting permission. (I know, Steve F. - accreditation never serves that function, but sometimes it can tend to mask problematic situations.)

    For an example, BAC has accredited schools in Switzerland that do not have recognition as State Universities in Switzerland. That's not a bad thing. State-mandated requirements make it impossible to even start a distance school in Switzerland - so such schools usually operate under Cantonal licenses. We all know such schools are perfectly legal - there are many and some are very good - but the degrees do not have the same standing as State schools' degrees - so what you might get on an evaluation in your own country could be an unknown quantity - or significantly problematic, depending on which of the many schools awarded the degree.

    In other words - BAC accreditation is fine. I stand corrected on that. But accreditation (as Steve F. will agree) has nothing to do with degree-granting permission - and that will affect how that (foreign) degree will be perceived when you present it in your home country. If you choose a BAC school - fine. But you should ALWAYS be aware of its type of degree-granting permission in its own country - and how acceptable its degrees are where you live - or intend to use the degree.
     
    Last edited: May 23, 2018
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  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Man, Johann, you didn't give me anything to kvetch about! ;)
     

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