ACCS: What are their chances?

What is going on

About 4 years ago i began looking for a good distance grad school that would allow me to pursue a Dmin. I found degreeinfo.com and began to do some research. As i researched ACCS i found only positive, except for livecoff (sorry about the spelling). I continued to research, still finding positive recommendations, and then made my choice. I chose ACCS.
Now after taking a couple of courses, it seems like everything is comming apart.

What in the world happened?

 

Re: What is going on

Levicoff conspired with TRACS to suspend ACCS

On a more serious note, I strongly believe that ACCS will regain its accreditation next year.

Ike Okonkwo, PhD

 

Hi Dr Ike: Why? (You're not usually part of the theological merry-go-round, so you bring a fresher perspective than some of us.)

 

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Doesn't Steve serve as an ad hoc member of the TRACS Board of Directors?

 

Janko:

I am a Christian. I was only performing my Devine duty.

Ike

 

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Does he or is this a banter?

Ike

 

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Ike,

It is equivalent to the TRACS/Levicoff conspiracy theory.

 

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Thanks. Je vous comprends maintenant.

Ike Okonkwo, PhD

 

why are you so confident

IKE- how is that you are so confident that ACCS will regain their accreditation?

 

Unfortunately, I don't think they'll make it. I don't have any inside info on this, but the last newsletter they sent out sounded like they were short on funds (again). The funny thing is, in all of their mailers, website, etc...they have never once stated that they are even having difficulty with the accreditation issue. This is at best unethical.

 

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Barry

I agree ACCS should indicate on the website etc that it may lose accreditation. It does not seem Christian to not do that.

 

catch 22 ?

It seems that accs is in a difficult situation. To announce to the world that they are in jepardy of losing their accreditation could be like cutting your own throat. But to give out miss information is not acceptable either. I wonder if the answer could be found at the tracs level. Lets say a school is put on probation after having received accreditiation. They could be required by Tracs to post this on their web sight. This would at least alert a would be student to do some follow up and them make their decision.

As it stands ACCS is accredited fully. They can say that honestly.
But we know the rest of the story.

As for them keeping their accreditaion, i am sceptical. I have been concerned at their lack of up-keep on their web sight. Their consentrated week long class list has not been updated for a long time. There faculty list is different in their catalogue than on the web page. The fact that they offer some type of business degree is on their web site but no specifics are given. This has been like this for some time.

I hope they get turned around and quick.


Robert

 

Re: why are you so confident

I conjectured . Seriously, I think that that ACCS officials/faculties have been very open about the problem since it was made public. I have no inside information from TRACS or ACCS but it appears that current ACCS students are adequately briefed about the progress made so far to remedy the school’s current quandary. ACCS accreditation problem appeared to have hinged on sloppy bookkeeping and I have no reason to doubt that their predicament has or will transcended beyond proper accounting. If that is the case, I believe that they will not be required to make changes that may entail painstaking restructuring and redesigning of their academic programs. I also assume that inadequate running budget/finance is not one of their problems. Since the problem appear to pivot on paper chase, I am inclined to believe that the problem will be over soon. Although the problem is not over yet, the situation is far from being a quagmire or an impasse. It will be fixed.

Ike Okonkwo, PhD

Nova Sotheastern University

 

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Re: catch 22 ?

 

Bill's right.

 

ok now what?

Bill, well put, however could not an accrediting agency serve potiential students by requiring (up-front) schools that have received their accreditation to post a probationary status if they are ever down graded.

This would at least alert someone to do further inquiry.

Secondly

would it be possible for a school like ACCS to revamp their offerings an still offer a DMIN in ministry subjects, like counseling or practical theology, or missions, or youth ministry or, church adiministration, with the faculty they now have?

Just a thought

I appriciate you input.

 

One thing that blows my mind about ACCS, is that with such a large student population they have such limited faculty and staff. They should be able to easily afford to build up both so that there would be no problem. I could never understand why only one person there seemed to handle almost all admissions, communications, etc... It is hard to believe they do not have the finances to pull this off.

 

Re: ok now what?

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Maybe TRACS should require that.

Call TRACS and ask them if a DMin qualifies one to teach ministry at the grad level. I think it should. While Unizul will not allow a DMin to teach, US RA seminaries regularly do as Cecil at DTS or Beasley (ABD) at Phoenix. If an EdD is seen as a qualification to teach educators, I don't see why a DMin is not a qualification to teach ministers! But ask TRACS.

Let us know what you find out.