A question for you adjunct instructors

Well don't be surprised, every student experiences are unique, I have learned in my 20 years plus of college, that if things are not the way they should be and as promised you should move on, and that is why I did, am not disgruntle with the school or anything, besides it only cost me $460 dollars to try (well less I got free books and webcam), and after what experienced, I decided it was not worth my time and money(even if it was a good deal, but a good deal is when you really benefit from one). As you can see others have posted positive experience about WNMU, yet Friendorfoe has posted a not positive one, you see universities are like dating, you are looking for the correct match. I am glad that you are having a positive experience, and really enjoyed reading your blog about your experiences with both AJU and Penn Foster.

 

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Good idea or perhaps we should call it as Ted points out, the "washout" club.

 

I think I'm going to finish out the semester then try again next fall. Take the summer off to reflect and all that.

 

Great thread. You can add me to the drop out group, been in and out of a doctorate twice (at least I have a number of credits to put to use). For me it has become an issue of acceptability. I finally reconciled with myself that I didn't want any more degrees from schools without a traditional campus or at least state schools (I have one). After evaluating a lot of schools, programs, etc... I finally realized I wanted a more traditional school experience for the doctoral level. So I'll probably wait until I retire (getting close) and pursue one at that time. I know someone who is pursuing the PhD at Florida in the Classics and it just sounds like fun. To those continuing their doctorate studies, best of luck and continued success.

It seems that there are some really good RA state school programs available through the masters level but that academia is still resistant for the doctoral level.

I don't think we can call it the "washout club" since we have to be failing the coursework for that title to fit. In this age of correctness, maybe the "evaluating my options" club?

I think a sticky might be good so that we can have a thread for others to consider, It might be of benefit.

I haven't stopped school I just decided to pursue another bachelors to find a home for some of the old engineering credits and other undergraduate credits I have lying around.

Best wishes to everyone,

 

I appreciate the post fof. I am actually in the process of registering with WNMU. I finish my MBA in July and am in the process of looking at a RA masters that both builds on my goal of becoming a high school teacher as well as teaching at my local CC.

Please keep us informed regarding your experience at WNMU.

Thanks,
Ruble

 

I guess that is true. Two different students can have completely different experiences at the same school. A good example of this is Penn Foster College. I have really enjoyed my studies there, and have never had issues with service, paying tuition, quality of the program, etc. Yet, other students hate it.

My wife is a student at Penn Foster Career School and they really screwed her (well, both of us, because it affected my checking account). She owed about 300 dollars on her tuition, which she agreed to pay off in one payment, but she told the school to wait until I got paid on the 15th. They didn't. They debited our checking account early, which caused many other checks I had written on that account to bounce. All in all, Penn Foster Career School cost me about $600 in bounced checks and overdraft fees. NEVER pay your tuition at a school with direct debits from a checking account. They can (and will) take the money whenever they feel like it.
I have always paid my PFC tuition with a credit card, and never had this problem. My wife (unknown to me) chose to pay with the direct debit from the checking account.

 

I do not think this is unusual - I experienced this a few times at both CSUDH and ERAU. And the UG student papers/exams were less demanding as one would expect.

 

Sorry to heard about the trouble with Penn Foster, they still need to work out some issues, but they are OK ( I graduated from that school twice), I never, never, never use my checking account for anything(only for two things actually), I use paypal to pay for stuff in the internet which goes directly to my credit card. The other(besides the credit card) payment I make is the electric bill(those SOBs only want checking) but I make the payment in the same date that is due, before I used Paypal to pay the electric bill and channel it to my credit cards, but paypal discontinue or added fees for the bill pay feature, hence, I am left with the checking thing. Other than that, I channel everything with my credit card and get awesome rewards points.

 

I don't think that people will enjoy the HUX program unless they are happy with independent study classes delivered by correspondence. HUX students have no contact with other students in their class. The program consists of reading books and writing papers, then writing a thesis, all pretty much in isolation. There's no contact with the professor apart from mailed handouts and paper comments, unless the student initiates the contact. (Some professors love hearing from their students, others try to brush them off.)

And frankly, I don't think that a HUX graduate would be qualified to teach at the college level unless he or she already had a good bachelors degree in the subject being taught. HUX serves pretty well in broadening an existing humanities background. But I don't think that it's sufficient to give a complete beginner everything necessary to teach undergraduate history, philosophy, art, music or literature.

 

Maybe we can call it, "I gave it try club" .

 

A CC had an open house the recruit instructor a while ago and I went to ask about the CSU-DH program. I simply asked if I earned 18 graduate credits in Humanities from a DL program would I be qualified to teach it. The response, "Are you looking at CSU-DH? They have a great program" He went on to tell me another teacher (Science) completed the program and is teaching humanities now.

 

Okay.....

 

The drop out club includes me. I dropped out of HMU. I just got tired of the run around. The reading of the classics, although cool, did not hold my interest. It was not the same program I signed up for when I started in April 2008. I have other sights on my horizon though. I shall gear for those.

 

I'm honored to be in such good "washout" company. I don't have the cash to attend HES right now. I'm onto plan B.

 

What were they saying you could teach? I don't recall many schools that have specifically named humanities courses. They usually have courses IN the humanities like history, literature, music, art history, etc. Were they saying you could teach any of those?

 

Humanities classes. They have HUM pre-fixes.
http://www.fccj.edu/resources/catalogs/2007_2008/courses/credit/HUM/

 

Well you coined the term, and credit is given where credit is due!

 

Oh. I see. I didn't know there was such as thing as an undergrad humanities class. Thanks for the info.

 

No Schools are like pants: even if it's your size you have to try it on: walk around with it and make sure it's comfy in the crotch....come think of it: that's exactly like dating too

I am curious Vini, with your DBA what were you taking at AJU?

 

I won't argue with that. HUX probably is pretty good preparation for teaching the arts-and-ideas kind of humanities courses. Even then though, graduates will be in a stronger position if they have an undergraduate background in the humanities.

My objection up above was to the idea that somebody with no undergraduate background in their subject could just swoop into the HUX program, do a quick 18 units in philosophy say, and then magically be ready to teach philosophy on the college level. Same thing with art, music, literature or history.

It's just hard for me to understand how somebody could be prepared to teach undergraduate philosophy without ever having studied the history of philosophy. (Many community colleges offer a history of philosophy sequence.) How could a teacher be ready to teach without having studied nuts-and-bolts things like epistemology, logic or ethics? Without having studied any of the individual philosophers?

I did a BA in philosoophy, the HUX M.A., plus about 15 additional philosophy graduate units from San Francisco State, and I don't really feel that I'm fully qualified to teach philosophy. And I have studied that kind of stuff.

Here's the HUX course offerings:

http://www.csudh.edu/hux/courses.html

Here's the philosophy offerings at SFSU:

http://www.sfsu.edu/~bulletin/courses/phil.htm

Hey, Randell... are you saying that they are having trouble finding people to teach these classes in Jacksonville FL? That's amazing. Here in the SF bay area, there's lots of applicants for for community college jobs and schools can be fairly selective.