12% of voters are illegal immigrants in Frederick County (Maryland)

Along with the Gospels, and St. Francis. Are you seriously surprised?

Also, there are no borders in the Kingdom of Heaven; so I don't think you should mix your faith with your argument. It doesn't work.

 

Abner, your question will be answered, if you can answer this:

How did St. Paul know that he was going to heaven?

It was discussed at the Council of Trent. The Council Fathers were very careful with their terminology.

 

Look, I guess I could do some research and give you and answer, but I am not going to bother. I think it is rather silly for you to assume you are going to heaven as If the decision is up to you. One should atone for his sins, and no man is pure and free from sin. Otherwise, what is the purpose of prayer and asking for forgiveness? God will decide if you enter the kingdom of heaven, regardless of how you interpret the bible. Unless you have mastered the art of walking on water.

Enough of that, back to the topic at hand. I do notice that you tend to shift the topic in to religion when it suits you and the argument isn't going your way. FSS, as Steve said.

 

Bottom line, St. Paul never claimed that by Christ's sacrifice, he's now entitled to lie (more specifically, slander people he didn't even know) to help make his country great again or to be kind of a dick to barbarians whose countries were less fortunate than Roman Empire. So no, you are in no way like St. Paul in this particular discussion, mate.

 

https://sojo.net/articles/when-did-christians-become-comfortable-loss-truth

 

They pay homage to a false idol. A pathological liar, or pussy grabber in Chief if you will.

 

American "Christian Right" is a weird thing. Like someone took a fire-and-brimstone flavor of Protestantism and added a big portion of Ayn Rand. Rand, of course, had enough intellectual integrity to be openly anti-Christian. Trump makes for a plausible idol for the Rand cult (well, dumber corners of it). I suppose he successfully pandered for anti-abortion-obsessed crowd as well.

I personally have bigger issue with anti-Clinton Liberals: extreme Bernie Bros, Steyn voters, and other little Naders. Fox News and talk radio demographics at least have the excuse of not knowing any better.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj4nJ1YEAp4

 

On many levels, they can not be more different. But they share a certain attitude, including a disdain for "losers" and worship of success expressed in money.
There's another similarity: both are liked and influential on the Christian Right, even though neither is a Christian. Except Trump lies about it, and Rand was brutally honest. It didn't preclude her influence, despite her status as a godless Hollywood screenwriter.

 

The fix has been in for years.....cheap votes (Dems) and cheap labor (Reps) = illegals......go figure!

 

It isn't just Frederick County MD.

It appears that my own California county has 11% more registered voters than it has voting age citizens. (It has the 8th highest percentage of immigrants of any county in the US.)

Judicial Watch has discovered similar disparities in 11 California counties including Los Angeles County with its population of 10 million.

Considering that not all citizens of voting age are registered to vote, one wonders what percentage of registered California voters are registered illegally.

Judicial Watch is preparing to file suit.

I think that the United States Justice Department should conduct its own inquiries and if they conform these these kind of numbers alleged by Judicial Watch, the Federal Government should file suit as well.

This could turn into something big.

 

No doubt that suit would be as liberal with basic arithmetic as the MD one, inflating the number of voting illegals 100-fold.
Some people have no shame.

 

You're right about that; the people who assist in voter fraud like helping illegals register to vote, they have no shame at all.

 

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/611

California Secretary of State Alex Padilla has been a leader in the Democratic Party's "Resistance" to President Trump's Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity. Padilla has refused to release state voter data to the Commission, arguing that to do so would "legitimize" false claims of massive election cheating last fall.

That sounds almost like an admission that the claims aren't "false" at all and that the California voter data the Commission has requested would justify them.

If California won't voluntarily cooperate when asked nicely by the Feds, the next step is presumably to file a Justice Department lawsuit.

 

Then why it is the "voter fraud" alarmists who resort to faulty math to justify their activity? This whole thread rests on alternative math. It's not as fun to argue that 63 irregular voters out of 164 thousand justify major effort that would make it harder for the elderly, poor, and youth to vote. Hilariously, 63 number is across multiple elections, too!

 

DAMN IT!!!! There are those pesky facts, getting in the way of another of your arguments!!

11 California Counties Might Have More Registered Voters Than Eligible - Newsy Story

Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit

LA County Admits Number Of Registered Voters At 144% Of Resident Citizens Of Voting Age | Zero Hedge

Judicial Watch Warns California to Clean Voter Registration Lists or Face Federal Lawsuit - Judicial Watch

 

Two questions: do you have an answer to my argument related to the original post, and have you read the articles you link? Because they do not have any "facts" that'd contradict anything I said. There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud.

Detroit numbers are consistent with human error; if it was fraud, they're doing it wrong, and might want to recruit Serhiy Kivalov or Vladimir Churov. These fine gentlemen might not meet the proposed point-based criteria, but could surely get a Green Card for extraordinary ability in Electoral Alternative Math. BTW, "144%" number is funny, as it's a famous Russian meme after Russian TV reported this as combined turnout in one district (people who voted, not registered). There were also reports of 102% vote for Mr. Putin in some districts in Chechnya.

 

LA County has admitted it?? I would have expected them to stonewall and deny, deny, deny. I figured that Judicial Watch would have to drag them kicking and screaming into court.

It's not a small issue either, since LA County has a population of approximately 10 million, roughly the same as the entire state of Michigan (and nearly as many people as the Canadian province of Ontario).

Voter-fraud in LA County on the scale that's being alleged could amount to upwards of a million illegal voters right there from that source alone.

Judicial Watch thinks that my own county has 11% more registered voters than Census Dept estimates of its citizen population of voting age (over 18). Along with us and LA, there's 9 other counties where the same thing is true. And those are just the most egregious cases, there's likely a lot of voters on the rolls in many CA counties that shouldn't be there. I'd be very interested in learning what percentage of registered California voters aren't legally qualified to vote.

Some are probably deceased and others have moved out of their precincts but haven't been removed from the lists. But I'd be willing to bet that a great many of them aren't US citizens.)

If these kind of numbers hold up, then this has the potential of becoming very very big. Perhaps the largest election scandal in US history.