“Contracting Out” Statistical Analysis of Dissertation

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Actually, I got a D after arguing with the professor.

We only had something like 10 days to drop a class at the beginning of each semester. And after arguing with the professor the day after we were allowed to drop a class, he said, ”I’m going to give you a D, regardless of the work that you turn in.” And he did. And the dean stood by him saying, "You know, we have to stick by our professors."

From that day forward, I never argued with a professor and my grades were much better.

But here on this chat forum, I can flex my giant intellectual muscles without fear of academic repercussions.

I hope.

 

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I'm not quite sure what brought this on, but I have a good idea.

"Dr. Knight," who in 3 posts has already decided to attack me, confuses on which side of this debate I sit. I am not in favor of "contracting out" one's statistical analysis.

"Dr. Knight" implies in this post that I somehow have not done my own doctoral work. How he can come to this conclusion without having read it is amazing, but it echoes the comments made anonymously by someone (who has since been identified) making the same claim anonymously to Union. Union, of course, rejected this as absurd, and had their legal counsel advise him as such.

"Dr. Knight" makes the exact same error as the anonymous flamer does: he confuses the statistical analysis I performed on John Bear's survey data with the work I did for my dissertation. They were two entirely different projects, completely different in design, execution, and subject population. (I did the analysis on John's survey with an eye on co-presenting it at the AACRAO convention that year, but couldn't attend due to business reasons.)

I would ask that the moderators of this board consider the libelous nature of the above comments and take action to ensure "Dr. Knight" refrains from them in the future. At least under this guise. Or should I reveal his real name, address, occupation, e-mail, the colleges with which he is affiliated, and the source of his fake doctorate?

 

There are several easy-to-use statistical software today. I see no reason for any doctoral candidate to contract statistical analysis to a third party. I my dissertation, I used both multiple regression and multivariate analysis of variance and I personally performed these analyses with a user-friendly statistical software (NCSS).

 

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And as a PhD from Oxon, what would your opinion of a PhD from, say, Berne University be? Just curious.

 

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And, of course, the odds of him actually having a PhD from Oxon are about as likely as me having one.

And trust me, I ain't got one!



Tom Nixon

 

Chief

I prefer John, and I don't mind Dr. Edwards......

You didn't read my post very carefully, did you? And you're a doctor? I cannot imagine a doctor not having the ability to understand the fundamentals of a simple post and then to apply it to a chat forum.

Thanks for the attack. To be accurate, I am a psychologist, and one who can do stats. Consequently, I have the qualifications to tutor you in psychology and to tell you what are analysis of variance, chi square, F-score, student's t-test, Z-score....etc.

Please note that the professor was referring to his doctoral program; he was not referring to the Masters program that we are in.

Look, your post from this thread and elsewhere indicate that you lack the knowledge in general statistics. This was evident in antoher thread as you frantically "asked" for help because you had a set of data and didn't know what to do with them. To me, that borderlined cheating. You then began your hunt for computer programs (my data was interpreted using a program too, of course, but I knew what heck I was doing), hoping that they could perform magic. Unfortunately, that too, requires elementary understanding of statistics as well. All in all, you're in a masters degree program and you're trying to get somebody else to do the dirty work for you. Amazing.

I hope you don't "read into" your student's papers like you "read into" my post.

Throw your rocks; I don't care. If I was in your shoe, I would take a refresher course in 1st yr stats then to post 800 times in this forum.

Cut me some loose slack, and I'll do the same.

 

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I suggest Mr Douglas that you proceed without delay to '...reveal his real name, address, occupation, e-mail, the colleges with which he is affiliated, and the source of his fake doctorate...'

You are a most interesting fellow...as Mr Nixon also appears to be. This is quite a remarkable group.

I'll await your next posting Mr Douglas.

 

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Dr Knight:

Oxford awards the DPhil as its junior doctorate (their term, not mine); Cambridge and the rest of the British universities (except Sussex and, until recently, York) the PhD.

Jon Porter (PhD Nottingham)

 

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Dr. E,

I like you, so I'm going to go easy on you.

This time.

 

I can't stay because I have to go and do some stats. Really. I'm serious.

I'll be back.

 

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This time???

Give me your best shot when you have done your M.A., and Ph.D.

That was a joke, of course.

 

You will be back after Dr. Phil has explained why Oxford awarded him a Ph.D instead of a D.Phil degree

 

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Dr. Porter,

I think Dr. Knight just wanted to note that he has a doctorate from Oxford, in case some of us don't know what a D.Phil is.

I've once met a fellow who signed the letters "DBA" after his name. When I asked where he received his doctorate, he replied: "DBA meant Database Administration."

 

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Hello John. I'm also a psychologist but I'm not familiar with R.Psych. Would you tell me what it stands for? Thanks,

David

 

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Hi David,

R.Psych = Registered psychologist

 

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And here it is: I echo Dennis' question of you: what is your opinion of Berne University? Certainly someone in a position to critique research he hasn't read can offer an opinion on this very public subject in the same basic area as my research....

So what say you?

 

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Dr. Edwards:

Since you cite your own qualifications, and you do not mention the source of them, perhaps you would be so kind as to tell us:

1. The source of your doctorate.

2. Where you are licensed as a psychologist.

Oh, for the record, analysis of variance (ANOVA) and "f-score" are the same thing. One computes an f-score to do an ANOVA.

I appreciate it when someone points out where I'm mistaken so I don't repeat the mistake. So in that spirit, I would offer that you meant "than" rather than "then" in your post. I'm sure you would appreciate knowing the difference so as not to repeat this error. Again, I know I would.

(My mistakes are routinely pointed out here, and I thank everyone who does it! )

 

Paging Doctor Howard, Doctor Fine, Doctor Howard........


All these Doctors in this thread. I feel like I am in the frikken hospital!

Sorry about that had to say it.

Bill

 

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Dr. Edwards:

Since you cite your own qualifications, and you do not mention the source of them, perhaps you would be so kind as to tell us:

1. The source of your doctorate.

2. Where you are licensed as a psychologist.

Yes, I did disclose my qualifications. If you can convince me why it is in my best interest to disclose such information over the wacky world of internet, I'll be happy to tell you.

Also, if you are a teacher and researcher, you can establish credibility, in my books, by means of telling me the name of the accredited institution where you currently teach, and in what sorts of publications where I can find your name.

Is there a ritual in this forum that new posters must go through your "degree screening" test, and by what authority are you to ask for it?

Oh, for the record, analysis of variance (ANOVA) and "f-score" are the same thing. One computes an f-score to do an ANOVA.

Am I being lectured by somebody from Union? I wish I have your royalties

I appreciate it when someone points out where I'm mistaken so I don't repeat the mistake. So in that spirit, I would offer that you meant "than" rather than "then" in your post. I'm sure you would appreciate knowing the difference so as not to repeat this error. Again, I know I would.

(My mistakes are routinely pointed out here, and I thank everyone who does it! )

Actually, unlike you, I really don't care how other posters write or spell. I merely pointed out that it is unacceptable for a graduate student to contract out the statistical analysis portion of one's thesis because one simply wanted to avoid it.

Another attack by a second poster. Am I just happened to be caught in whatever agenda you have with "berne," or are you just one of the moderator's spoiled pet?

 

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