How is President Trump doing in his first 100 days?

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How is President Donald Trump doing in his first 100 days?

  1. Very Good

    46.2%
  2. Good

    7.7%
  3. Fair

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Poor

    3.8%
  5. Very Poor

    42.3%
  1. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Your hysterically overblown reaction just reaffirms what I already knew, thank you.
     
  2. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I don't know why you continue to speak on CNN when you almost never watch it. Anyone who actually watches it knows that CNN probably has the most full-time Trump surrogates. Corey Lewandowski, Kayleigh McEnany, Scottie Nell Hughes, Jeffrey Lord, and a few other Trump surrogates have had regular spots on CNN. There are also a few real conservatives who have had regular spots on CNN; they just are sane enough to not be Trump supporters.

    This is strange to read because he hasn't really had time to do anything of real significance yet. His travel ban is tied up in court, so he's in the process of rewriting it. Most of his other executive orders aren't really anything big. People are sensationalizing the recent ICE raids, but they only got about 700 people. According to Fox, ICE got over 2,000 people in their raids in March 2015. Straight from a Fox anchor, Trump is currently under-performing Obama with deportations. There is a reason why Obama was called Deporter-In-Chief. He deported over 3 million people, so Trump has a lot of catching up to do just to match Obama.
     
  3. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    lol

    If CNN is friends with Trump, then who needs enemies?

    MSNBC and SNL are right up their with CNN. It's going to be interesting to see how the next eight years of Trump's presidency is going to impact CNN, MSNBC, SNL and other politburo outlets.
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    They're not the politburo, they're the dissidents.
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    He lost a senior advisor to scandal after what, just three and a half weeks? The Trump administration is setting records already! :rolleyes:
     
  6. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  7. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    No one said "CNN is friends with Trump". This is an infantile, Trumpian standard to judge people with. What was said, and is true, is that CNN featured a number of Trump surrogates, giving them ample time to speak. This is true: when I turned on CNN during campaign, 9 times out of 10 it was a panel discussion with 2 Democrats and 2 Trump supporters (or 3 by 3). Cory Lewandovsky, after stepping down as Trump campaign manager, was immediately hired full-time by CNN; he was there the whole time at election night. I cannot recall the names of other mainstays (Google helpfully points out that the faces I remember the most belong to Kayleigh McEnany and Jeffrey Lord). Kellyanne Conway appeared frequently. Believe me, they got plenty of airtime at CNN.

    It occurred to me that I was unduly harsh, as I perceived denying things like these as deliberate gaslighting. It is, on part of Trump team; but perhaps you (and Bruce) just report things as they appear from your bubble. I apologise if I overreacted at some point.
     
  8. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Wherever there are people, there are problems. However, Michael Flynn's single conversation is fractionally small, especially when it's compared to Hillary Clinton's multiple felonious discussions and transmissions of multiple top secret materials over long period of time in unsecured privately owned emails. That is far worse.
     
  9. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Stanislav, it would be nutty to think that CNN is somehow friends or friendly towards Trump because the CNN politburo is too far left for that to realistically happen (at least in the short term). However, if leftist mainstream media revenues continue to contract, then we could see a total transformation of the mainstream media over the next decade. It will be interesting to see the media landscape in eight years from now when President Trump leaves office. It will be different, for sure.
     
  10. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Precisely.
    I think people confuse noise with action, on both sides. I read a long and detailed post from an immigration lawyer about the deportation of a Mexican woman mentioned earlier, and that got a lot of coverage. According to the lawyer, that decision was well within long-standing policies and was routine all through Obama years. The woman is sympathetic, but the fact is that once she got convicted of a crime followed one of Sheriff Airpaio's raids (no matter how much you and I might disagree with them), she was almost bound to be deported at some point. Her lawyer was fighting an uphill battle.
     
  11. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Yes, the leftist mainstream media are dissidents. LOL
     
  12. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    No, it is not. Apples and oranges. As Comey patiently explained to Congress, actual provable facts on Clinton emails amounted to far less than the ones on Petraeus, and he was convicted of a misdemeanor. "Multiple top secret materials", for one, amounted to quickly-unclassified talking points and discussion of "top secret" but universally known killer drone program. She used that Blackberry as her "open", unclassified line of communication. And, oh btw - Trump is using an unsecured phone (Android, a comparatively flimsier platform).
     
  13. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    And I repeat: Lewandowski, among the people most personally loyal to Trump, has been part of CNN, as much as any other talking head. What you say doesn't make any sense. And you keep using "politburo" wrong.
     
  14. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    I think that the networks' biases become most obvious when they make decisions on what stories to lead off with. I still remember CNN focusing almost obsessively on Ferguson MO and Baltimore for weeks on end. Obviously somebody in their hierarchy had made the decision that the 'Black Lives Matter' story-line was going to be their headline, that it was the most important story in the world. And any time there's a shooting, we will almost inevitably be treated to CNN's "gun violence" rhetoric.

    I do think that CNN is probably the best news network when there's breaking news. Fox isn't bad either.

    But when breaking news isn't taking place, all of the networks replace news reporting with political opinion. They have to fill up all those hours somehow. Fox does it just as readily as the others. A lot of the reason for that is economic, sending reporters out to cover things is a lot more expensive than inviting pundits into a studio to bloviate. And as viewers bleed away to the internet, the news networks find themselves trying to tailor their offerings to what they believe are their core audiences. They no longer try to be everything for everyone.

    The reason why I personally prefer Fox is because they are the only TV network that doesn't tilt Democratic (whether full-frontally like MSNBC which only seems interested in communicating with the left-base, or more subtly like CNN). My habit is to click back and forth between Fox and CNN. It isn't that Fox really is 'fair and balanced', it's that they are the only news network that acknowledges the views of the forgotten half of America that spoke so loudly in November. If somebody wants to really know what's happening in America, they have to watch Fox.

    It is interesting though to watch Fox grapple with the Trump administration. I think that I detected that a number of Fox personalities didn't support Trump. (That was obvious with Megan Kelly. I think that it's also true of Shep Smith.) Many of the pundits that Fox has on were Republican establishment types like Carl Rove. Trump's amazing victory on Nov 8 was as surprising to them as it was to the Democrats. Trump is anything but an establishment Republican, he certainly doesn't preach the Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan and Bush-family line and the Republican beltway-bloviators still don't really know how to respond to him.
     
  15. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I watch it all the time, but thank you for the chuckle.
     
  16. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Agreed, and CNN also has the most extensive live coverage. During the Ferguson riots, they stayed live all night into the morning, while Fox took live coverage off around 02:00.
     
  17. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Stanislav, what is your level of experience and expertise in dealing with National
    Security case law in the United States? Are you speaking as:
    a) a subject matter expert
    b) an expert attorney in NSA case law
    c) or as an Eastern European foreigner living in Canada who is interested in American politics?
     
  18. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Stanislav, your dubious connect-the-dots theory does not indicate that "CNN is Trump friendly."
     
  19. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Sure they are... now. If we'd had this conversation a months ago I'd have agreed they were (other than Fox News) an unofficial mouthpiece of the administration.
     
  20. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Dude, I merely summarized Comey's (Bush-appointed Director of the FBR) testimony before Congress. What is YOUR level of expertise to contradict this?
     

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