When is the right time to embark on Masters degree?

The right time to embark on a master's degree is ...
... when Dave Wagner tells you you're not allowed to get a doctorate.

 

LOL!

"You have learned well, Grasshopper..."

"You are indeed powerful, as the Emperor has foreseen..."

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of few or the one..."

Hence, it is not a question of being "allowed" but a question of "demonstrating the correct motivations," which does not include narcissism... IMHO.

Somebody has to help narcissists get their lives back with discovery, harm reduction, and recovery...

 

so Dave, looked in a mirror lately?

 

Which fits in nicely for many of the threads here since they are full of agricultural and biological by products....

 

Demonstate to who....you?

 

Because the time, money, and frustration spent on a PhD generally is not worth it, IMHO.

 

Thanks, Kevin. I sense that you were touched by my post. I hope that it didn't make you feel too uncomfortable. Am I understanding you correctly?

Just to make sure I understand, let me offer you an example... Are you suggesting that one has to be in the car accident to help those hurt in the car accident? Is that how you see it?

I really appreciate you sharing that.

 

No. What I am saying, to be clear, is that I find it difficult to understand how you as an idividual, who spends time blogging, twittering, social site networking, etc.. can find fault with other individuals who spend their time on doctoral studies.

Your self promotion seems to me to present more of a narcissistic need than those who are seeking a doctorate and you continue to believe in your own self importance by stating: "Somebody has to help narcissists get their lives back with discovery, harm reduction, and recovery..."

Hence, my suggestion you look in a mirror before claiming others are narcissists or have narcissistic tendencies. Or, as we say in my neck of the woods, sweep your own porch before you comment on mine.

 

A note to reinforce Ian Anderson's suggestion of Leicester.

My US company represented the Heriot-Watt (EBS) distance MBA as it grew from zero to become the largest MBA of any kind in North America. We were eager to take on another program(me), and that turned out to be the Leiceser MS in HR and in Training. We were tremendously impressed by the quality of the programme and the people who ran it. At the time (and I think still) there was an option for people with no Bachelor's degree to do an 8 or 9 month distance course, both to prepare for the MS and to persuade the University that one was ready. So, if they are willing to accommodate people with no earlier degree, the GPA issue is unlikely to be a factor.

Incidentally, I was pleased to learn, when we were researching Leicester, that one of their first Master's degrees was earned by one of my heroes, C P Snow, physicist, novelist, philosopher . . . and, unexpectedly, a senior HR official for the British government for many years. (His BS in chemistry was also from Leicester.)

(Of course ekosumo knows, but many of our clients didn't know that the university name is pronounced "Lester" (as in 'worcestershire sauce').

 

I appreciate hearing those thoughts. And perhaps this doesn't have to be all about you investing your valuable time to give feedback with no return. Maybe there is something here for you. You must want something. You're here, right? Perhaps I can help you. Let's work together to find out what you want. I'm here to help.

 

Thanks Ian Anderson and John Bear,in the process of applying to Leicester now.And yes,I was told earlier about the pronunciation

 

And I suppose you're the perfect person to "help" all these narcissistic little grasshoppers who think they want doctorates by warning them of the dangers of narcissistic prima donna professors who will make their lives miserable by jerking them around for three or five or seven years with their culture of prevention.

 

Maybe Dr Wagner speaks from experience being one of those professors. Maybe he mentors PhD students...and know best...who knows.

 

And maybe Dr. Wagner just wants to be the last PhD ever minted.

 

We've heard all kinds of stories. There's the overly intelligent, overly bright teenager who's graduating from college at 18 and wants to go to grad school. There's the new BA who wants to keep rolling right into a Masters degree. There's the mid-career professional who's looking for a career change or that big promotion. And there's the somewhat older professional who's interested in a personal capstone project for their career.

My short answer to the original question "When is the right time...?" The right time is when the idea occurs to you.

 

Sounds good to me.