What if the Electors Change their Vote on Monday? Could Hillary Reach 270?

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  1. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    So, William McKinley, Teddy Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, Warren G. Harding, Hoobert Heever, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Dwight David Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard M. Nixon, Gerald R. Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and Bill Clinton were all millionaires? Some of these I find hard to believe.
     
  2. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member


    Truman and LBJ died within 30 days of each other. Leaving us, for 19 months, with no living ex-Presidents.
     
  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Which ones, and why do you find that hard to believe? It's not that much money.
     
  4. Life Long Learning

    Life Long Learning Active Member

  5. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    A long time ago, a million dollars was a lot of money i.e. it would guarantee the recipient to live an opulent lifestyle for the rest of his life. Today, a million dollars is a paltry amount and will not last very long and has lost the strong purchasing power that it once had in bygone yesteryear's. As an example, the dollar has lost so much value that Japanese Kobe beef is now being priced per ounce (in dollars) instead of per pound. In the 1930s, it took a wheelbarrow full of Deutschmarks to buy a loaf of bread. Hopefully that kind of excessive fiat inflation won't happen in our lifetime because it would hurt a lot of people.
     
  6. Life Long Learning

    Life Long Learning Active Member

    The Gov't/Fed love inflation. The inflation rate is a lie at worse and not accurate at best. To pay off (or act like they might pay off the National debt). Their polices hurt fixed income folks.

     
  7. TomE

    TomE New Member

    Surprise about Jefferson. Always read the stories about him blowing throw most of his money while living in Paris and really starting to be on the skids once he got back to Monticello. I guess the comparisons to first round, NFL Draft busts are exaggerated.

    Poor Truman. I always heard that he lived out his final years eating sardine sandwiches and playing cards somewhere in Missouri.
     
  8. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    Actually, December 26, 1972 to January 22, 1973 is only 27 days.
     
  9. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    McKinley, Taft, Harding, Hoover, Eisenhower, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, and Carter
     
  10. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member


    Close enough for government work.
     
  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    He made a little money off his memoirs, although he lost 2/3 of it to the federal government in taxes and a lot of the rest paying his assistance. But he got by until eventually a presidential pension act was passed, and obviously he was fine after that.
     
  12. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Quite sad indeed, but the people made their choice. Trump won fair and square. We see once again that the average working man non millionaire of billionaire voter has voted against his own interests. History repeats itself.
     
  13. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    Degreeinfo is not the government.
     
  14. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member


    The accomplishment was that of Truman and LBJ.
     
  15. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Today, a pro-Trump vendor was setting up his kiosk on Main Street in preparation for the coming New Years Eve crowds. He was selling Trump baseball hats, shirts and memorabilia. One shirt read: "Hilliary for Prison." A woman walked up to the vendor and asked, "Excuse me. Can you please take that shirt down [off the display rack] because it's rude." The vendor looked at her in surprise and disbelief, like a stunned deer in headlights. The vendor clearly didn't know what to say to her. Then the woman's husband rudely and without provocation yelled at the vendor: "You're an asshole." The pro-Trump vendor never said a rude word the entire time.
     
  16. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I'd strongly expect a vendor selling such things would have been used to comments like that for a long time now.
     
  17. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member

    Where'd my other post go?
     
  18. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Not condoning anyone's actions. But even you got to admit, Trump supporter "surprised" at RUDENESS is pretty freakin' hypocritical, man. Weren't you guys fighting to end "political correctness"?

    PS. and the story do have a feel of fiction. No offense.
     
  19. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Yes, you're right, it does seem like fiction. It was also surreal to watch it unfold.

    Calling a Trump vendor who is a complete stranger a name (e.g. asshole) is not a reasonable way of ending "political correctness."
     
  20. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Sure. OTOH, falsely implicating pretty much every New Jersey resident of the Muslim faith in supporting 9/11 is a reasonable way of ending "political correctness". Dismissing a female reporter whose questions you didn't like by suggesting she's menstruating is also pretty reasonable. Need I go on? I really want to know if your victim of a vendor was carrying famous "trump that b*tch" t-shirts as well.

    You guys supported an unapologetic asshole for the leader of the free world. Sure, it doesn't technically make each of you an asshole, but I see how someone might make that mistake. And, yeah, your leader proved that "reasonable" is irrelevant, so why the double standard?
     

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