Accreditation, as a private system, is not broken. However, accreditation as a government recognized standard for all things is broken. The fact is, schools like TESU prove to us that credits can be accumulated from multiple sources and a degree can be awarded. That's a great thing. I wish, as I said, that every state had a similarly functioning public degree granting institution just like it. What we have instead for "max credit transfer" is a highly inconsistent patchwork of independent standards that range from "we don't accept transfer credits at all" to "we don't accept more than 50% of transfer credits no matter what" with only non-traditional schools really being willing to break ranks with their peers. The problem is that accreditation is, in effect, the schools governing themselves. Massive fees are only part of the equation. There is an entire industry of consulting professionals who add tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to the process expense as well and create a revolving door of school administrators and accreditation specialists. Like any self-regulation that means that some things will creep in there that have absolutely nothing to do with academic standards. The initial hostility to online learning was total crap. There was no reason for it aside from some incredibly and wildly inaccurate comparisons of it to correspondence learning. Yet, there we were. Look, it's been established that we could save time and money if the IRS send us pre-populated tax forms every year. For the majority of Americans whose income is summarized on a single W-2 it would be quick and easy. Who resists such a change? Tax preparers. Intuit would lose gobs of money if they couldn't sell a $30 piece of software to almost every working person in the country even those who could fill out the 1040EZ in about 10 minutes on their own. But...the consumers can choose, you may say. While true, there is also quite a bit of marketing to lead people to believe that they'll somehow screw up even the simplest tax form and end up buried in fees. All of that goes away when you trust your tax preparer. It's a similar thing here. Accreditation is expensive and it is cumbersome. DEAC accreditation requires not just a number of fees but you a hosting school to pay for business class airfare and hotel accommodation for the reviewers attending the site visit. Meanwhile, New York does not. Because they only accredit schools within the state there is no need for expensive flights. Because the reviewers are government employees this is just part of their job rather than being a fun little side hustle for an already (possibly) over compensated college administrator or a career educational consultant. One system is efficient and the other is not. One system allows for tiny schools to become accredited institutions and the other does not. Both add expenses to the bottom line for any school, however, not just in their fees but in the expenses related to the accreditation and re-accreditation process such as hiring consultants and paying per diem for reviewers. And we have public schools beholden to this. Again, it's absurd to think that the state of New York is capable of accrediting universities, awarding degrees and doing all things education but that the entire SUNY system still should have to shell out the bucks for RA. So let's do it this way. Rich, let's not talk about RA vs NA. Let's talk about New York Regents since the topic recently came up and I revived it here. Do you think the Regents have weaker accreditation standards than RA? If not, if we accept that they are comparable then we should really consider how it can be argued that the current system is not really broken when the same job can be done cheaper, just as efficiently and in a way that is accessible to smaller schools. Meanwhile, the bulk of "new" RA schools seem to be backed by Private Equity firms rather than groups of dedicated educators. It's being penny wise and pound foolish. Saying you don't want your taxes to support a "bloated" agency like the NY Department of Education and then spending three times as much to prop up the schools to undertake a private accreditation system.