Wanna be a school teacher?

Discussion in 'Education, Teaching and related degrees' started by Kizmet, Jun 28, 2019.

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  1. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  2. Hamburger

    Hamburger New Member

    I am retired. However, I should have become a high school teacher.

    AA - History - Rockland Community College
    AAS - Accounting - Rockland Community College
    AAS - Business Administration - Rockland Community
    BA - History - Dominican College of Blauvelt
    BS - Accounting - Dominican College of Blauvelt
    Graduate Business Certificate - University at Buffalo - The State University of New York
    Doctor of Ministerial Studies - The Kings Cross Victory Bible College
     
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    C'mon. Do we have to say it?

    https://victorynetwork.org/

    Just $39.50. Or $31.50. Depends on on where you look on a very long page.

    Kinko's is less. Same outcome.
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I like the gratuitous God Bless America at the end. Apparently, when degree mills come to America, they will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.
     
  5. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    If someone--oh, I don't know who--used such a credential to conduct business and that credential was involved in some material way, that person would find him/herself in a very actionable position.
     
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  7. tadj

    tadj Active Member

    Their website states that they "offer over 60 spiritual and honorary degrees!" Plenty of Linkedin profiles feature Kings Cross Victory Bible College graduates. I've never heard of a spiritual degree. Is that non-material?
     
  8. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    Pulled up their legal paperwork last night, the primary officers/owners appear to be a married couple in Ohio, although there is/was a third wheel. They’ve moved around a bit and have had their paperwork lapse in the past. There appears to be some overlap with the legal entity I posted earlier, almost seems like they attempted to either franchise or allow others to ‘expand the reach’ of their business model. Lost interest after a bit of Googling.
     
  9. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    Can you put a price on a price on an award from a self-proclaimed apostle? …I mean, besides $31.95?

    Can you put a price on gold colored stickers? …I mean, besides a $10 up charge?

    Is it non-material? …I mean, that can only be determined through self-reflection… do you believe in the powers contained within a Geocities era webpage?

    Note… as Rich stated, using these degrees or titles may become quite problematic in some circumstances…
     
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  10. schools

    schools New Member

    I have a Bachelors degree in math with education courses so that I can teach. I am also licensed by the state to begin teaching.
    However, I don't have any teaching experience. Therefore, I can't get a teaching job.
    I welcome your constructive comments.
    Thank you.
     
  11. schools

    schools New Member

    Thank you, Vonnegut.
     
  12. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    Which state or city are you looking for teaching positions in? Many school districts at the K-12 level are desperate for math teachers, particularly those already licensed. Have you reached out locally/regionally? Have you reached out about joining the Substitute Teacher pool?
     
  13. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    1. Check with your state regarding alternative credentialing.
    2. Stop presenting false degrees.

    You can do those in reverse order as well.
     
  14. manuel

    manuel Member

    There should be a feature on LinkedIn to flag those types of degrees. This might help get rid of a lot of degree mills because people would be scared to post their fake credentials.
    It is sad, dangerous, and embarrassing that I person goes through the trouble of getting a fake degree to showcase it in a professional setting.
     
  15. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    I personally like that one of the central words on their website, is in bold and large font, "Humble"... because certainly the most humble thing one can do is purchase a mail order degree and declare one's self as an educated doctorate holder....
     
  16. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    What you ask is difficult since the definitions of what are and are not legitimate schools are so vague. There simply is not an agreed-upon standard. This is why these operations continue to exist--that, and the fact that almost no one checks. But I did.
     

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