US intelligence: Russia plans to attack Ukraine early next year

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  1. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    A fan of Harry Turtledove, I presume?
     
    SteveFoerster, Apr 15, 2022
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  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Worldwar by Harry Turtledove? Sorry, never heard of him. :cool:
     
    Bill Huffman, Apr 15, 2022
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  3. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Aidar guardsmen deploy to the most dangerous positions; most notably now, they are among the very last defenders of what's left of Mariupol. You bet ya ass, Charles, that I want these men trained as well as possible.
    P. S. it is not like it's unheard of for American Neo-Nazis (let alone, say, South American cartel enforcers and right-wing terrorists) to have U. S. Military training. It's very curious that you want to focus on those Kremlin wants you to focus on, pal.
     
    Stanislav, Apr 15, 2022
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  4. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Wild hypothetical there of Nazis involved in the U.S. space program.
     
    Jonathan Whatley, Apr 16, 2022
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  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    "And what is it that put America in the forefront of the nuclear nations? And what is it that will make it possible to spend twenty billion dollars of your money to put some clown on the moon? Well, it was good old American know-how, that's what, as provided by good old Americans like Dr. Wernher von Braun!"
     
    SteveFoerster, Apr 16, 2022
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  6. Charles Fout

    Charles Fout Active Member

    Nuclear nations - I am not aware of any Nazis involved with the Manhattan Project.
    Perhaps you intended to write rocketry? Von Braun, himself, was efusious I his praise of the Father of American Rocketry, Robert Goddard.
     
    Charles Fout, Apr 17, 2022
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  7. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/why-us-government-brought-nazi-scientists-america-after-world-war-ii-180961110/

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/16/fact-check-nazi-scientists-brought-u-s-operation-paperclip/5690870002/

    I'm pretty sure that the quote that SteveFoerster posted is saying that the US became great after WWII because it imported and used Nazis.
     
    Rachel83az, Apr 17, 2022
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  8. Charles Fout

    Charles Fout Active Member

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    Charles Fout, Apr 17, 2022
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  9. Charles Fout

    Charles Fout Active Member

    No Nazi ever contributed to the grate ness of the United States. Were Von Braun, Et Al. still Nazis? Were they required to repudiate Nazism?
     
    Charles Fout, Apr 17, 2022
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  10. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    No, they were not required to repudiate Nazism. They were still very much Nazis.
     
    Rachel83az, Apr 17, 2022
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  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    "When the rockets are up, who knows where they come down?
    That's not my department, says Wernher von Braun." - Tom Lehrer
     
    Johann, Apr 17, 2022
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  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Glad someone got it!
     
    SteveFoerster, Apr 18, 2022
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  13. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Malcolm Nance, BA Excelsior College 2011, is a national security analyst well known through books written, cable news appearances, and 1.1 million Twitter followers. A prominent critic of Trump and Russian interference. He served 20 years in the U.S. Navy. He's 60 years old.

    He's now fighting in Lviv. Last night he announced on MSNBC where he's been a frequent guest that he's joined the International Legion of Territorial Defense of Ukraine.

     
    Jonathan Whatley, Apr 19, 2022
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  14. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Lerner, Apr 25, 2022
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  15. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    Rachel83az, Apr 26, 2022
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  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

     
    Lerner, May 4, 2022
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  17. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    They could do that (well, assuming their nuclear weapons work better than their conventional ones) but since that would be suicide, but given the immediate retaliation, it seems rather unlikely that they would.
     
    SteveFoerster, May 4, 2022
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  18. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Full mobilization in Crimea and all submarines deployed in the waters.
    Russia is flexing muscles or getting ready to strike with missiles?
     
    Lerner, May 14, 2022
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  19. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Ukraine is carrying on a navel war with Russia. What is amazing about it is that they don't have a navy!!

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61406808

    The Ukrainians are amazing! Of course, fighting for one's life and family can make one very resourceful and flexible.
     
    Bill Huffman, May 14, 2022
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  20. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I think world militaries and guerilla fighters are are taking notes and warfare books modified, written.
    Totally agree on the motivation, defending own family, city, country etc is powerful force.

    Russian solders are demoralized and some are sabotaging equipment to delay advancements fearing they will be killed.
     
    Lerner, May 15, 2022
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