UoP Pay Question

Discussion in 'Online & DL Teaching' started by mattbrent, Aug 9, 2010.

  1. mattbrent

    mattbrent Active Member

    My wife and I are currently teaching for UoP. We both are doing courses that are a part of a program so the courses are 6 weeks. I was just curious, as I'm also elibible (according to my approved courses) to teach courses that are in the continuing education section. Those are the ones that are only 3 weeks long. Is there a pay difference between a 3 credit six week course and a 3 credit 3 week course?

  2. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member

    From the 2010 pay scale assuming Level B:

    Undergrad: $200/week
    Grad: $210/week
    Cont. ed.: $236/week
  3. mattbrent

    mattbrent Active Member

    Thanks! I was kind of hoping I'd get the same pay for a 3 week course that I'd get for a 6 week course. I suppose I was being optimistic! hahaha :)

  4. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Pretty sad wages. I started teaching online in 2000 at a DETC accredited school at the pay was $3000 per course back then. Of course the school went bankrupt but it amazes me how wages are going down for online instructors. I guess the over saturation of graduate degree holders will make it even worse as time goes by. I guess it is time to look for a different career path.
  5. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member

    UOP should be viewed by the prospective adjunct as a stepping stone into better positions and nothing more.............
  6. mattbrent

    mattbrent Active Member

    For someone that needs the cash, UoP is good. Sure, it may be as high as everywhere else, but it's still a nice supplemental income. My wife and I are both instructors, though she makes a little bit more than I do because of the length she's been with them.

    In comparison, I've been asked to teach a 3 credit undergrad intro-US history course at the local community college. The pay was around $2 based on 12-14 students. That may decrease a bit if enrollment is a little less. Yes, its undergrad and I have to travel, but again, it's good extra money. At this point, I'll take what I can get.

    Considering how much tuition is at UoP, sure they could pay more. However, if one doesn't want to work for the current pay, no one's forcing them to.

  7. Pap

    Pap New Member

    Any ideas about Laureate Online Education is in Partnership with the University of Liverpool wages?
    I would appreciate even an estimation...
    Thank you :)

    PS: Sorry for posting under this topic, but I hope to get some replies.
  8. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    2K per course, not the best not the worst.
  9. Pap

    Pap New Member

    Many Thanks ;)
  10. bazonkers

    bazonkers New Member

    I guess adjunct salaries ARE really low. Do they pay the whole $2 all at once? :)
  11. mattbrent

    mattbrent Active Member

    My community college pays it out once a month for the semester. I don't think it's all that low, but perhaps that's just because I'm a public high school teacher, and everyone knows that public school teachers are paid rather low. If I were to work it out per hour, I make about $25/hr at the high school versus about $44/hr at the community college. That's only considering in class time, not out of class time though. And the community college pay is based upon the rank of "instructor" which I'll be for the next 2 years.

  12. Princeofska

    Princeofska New Member

    Wow 44/h for a history course at a CC? You must be in a good system! We are lucky to hit 30/h around here.

    I have a question for all you UoP instructors out there... Does anyone know if online instructors follow the same increasing pay scale as listed for campus instructors? IE: after a year, should we get more money per course? I am wondering about this, because it has been a couple months past 1 year for me and my contracts are always for $950.

    And my 2 cents on the whole thing... UoP is rather low, but a nice supplement... I don't get enough classes to make a career out of it anyway... thus still in a PhD program and looking for that one in thousand tenure job after I am done. If you look at some of these in comparison, I break them down by week's pay. For example, UoP is a five week course, so it is 190 a week. The other school I regularly teach for is about 2400 a class, but 8 weeks. So you are looking at 300 dollars a week. Of course the later school is much more time intensive - however they have been giving me multiple classes per semester. The last CC i taught at it was only 1600 for the whole 15 week semester, or a 106 dollars a week. You better bet that I did as much work for that class as I do for my UoP classes, so in that regard UoP pays better. Unfortunately, they sometimes go months without offering me classes. But what do you expect when you have piles of history degrees?
  13. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    Considering that UOP's business model is dependent on screwing both students and faculty financially, it doesn't surprise me.
  14. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member

    It sounds like you started at the "B" level with $950/course - the next increase comes at 3 years service. I think it is to $1150 a course.

    I approach my calculations similar to how you did on a per week basis for comparing schools with differing term lengths, but I break it down even further to $ per student/per week - it gives you a much more accurate picture of what you are truly earning for your effort.

    The only reason I can make UOP pencil out for me is that I typically teach classes of 8 students or less in the main programs I teach in.

  15. Pap

    Pap New Member

    Sometime I think the time requirement/pay by institutions are really up surd!!
    Your thoughts....
  16. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    As you can see, it really depends on each individual situation. For some is worth it and for some is not. I have been in the online teaching business for 10 years and I have noticed that salaries have stayed the same or have decreased for the case of the new online schools.
    On the other hand, most of them require now a PhD and demand more time. I guess schools have the upper hand here, they charge small fortunes for the PhD and then they peanuts to the same graduates to teach. I believe that the argument of good cash on the side can be acceptable for some but I think there are many easier and cheaper ways of making those extra couple of hundred a week.
  17. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member

    Just curious because it is obvious from your recent posts on this subject that you have a bad taste in your mouth, but it sounds like your perspective is shaped by the school(s) you work for. Have you tried to find work at better schools?
  18. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Yes, for this reason I don't work much for online schools anymore.

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