University of California System Bans Fully Online Degrees

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by chrisjm18, Feb 27, 2023.

  1. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    It used to be. Right now it's actively crushing small, innovative schools it previously approved. Thing "Godzilla vs. Woodstock," coming to a theater near you.
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  2. SteveFoerster

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  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I recall seeing this back in the day, I think at a theater showing shorts and outtakes. I chose "Woodstock" as my metaphor because so many of those California schools were outgrowths of the hippie era.
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  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I don't see any contradiction, why pick one?

    I respect that a school wants their graduates to experience the campus, in person interactions, to observe schools culture in order to award a degree of their school.
    As long as the university is offering DL classes toward the degree it means that they believe the quality is good as in classroom.

    I think its totally fine to include the B&M portion of the degree. Each campus has its own unique culture, history, stories, rivalries and facilities.
    I guess this is partially why some universities have Extension or Global campuses for DL etc.
    Some may have exceptional laboratory, or famous forensic lab. Networking and friendships that students get.
    Some play college sports etc.

    If I had a school, and wanted to graduate students with my schools degree they would had to taste and be able to kook Borsch the way I do :). In my kitchen not via YouTube video :).
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  6. MaceWindu

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  7. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I'm surprised Emperor DeSantis hasn't banned fully online degrees in the Kingdom of Florida.
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  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Perhaps he's working on a comprehensive ban of ALL degrees --- except his own.
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  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Some states agencies require job applicants to have degrees from it state and for some jobs it's highschools as well.
    A friend a while ago applied for a job in preason system as PO.
    He also applied for a job with Sheriff and there also they wanted their state degree and high-school diploma.
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  10. felderga

    felderga Active Member

    As a UC alumnus and parent of a UCSB undergraduate, I see this as a partial "nothing burger". Given the UC system's focus on research, there are just a handful of majors that one could argue could be done completely 100% online. Even humanities students are required to take some science coursework with in-person labs. The bigger for me is the UC's lack of affordable housing options at some campuses. UCSB ran out of housing space to accommodate many undergraduates this past fall as reports of students sleeping in cars or living in motels have sadly become commonplace. Being the most popular public university system in the nation the UC Regents know that this ruling will have little impact on their enrollment as demand will always remain high.
  11. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I've seen many schools offer science courses online without labs.
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  12. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

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  13. felderga

    felderga Active Member

    This is not going to happen at a university system that features many Nobel laureates. Also, many stem majors engage in hands-on undergraduate research so again I'm guessing the emphasis remains in person for key lower-division coursework.
  14. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

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  15. felderga

    felderga Active Member

    Yes and no for this one. Harvard Extension School while part of Harvard University isn't the college (which doesn't offer fully online degrees either). Also, the vast majority of degrees offered by Harvard Extension still require students to undergo an in-person experience.

    BTW....The UC Extension schools do as well offer online science-related courses at the undergraduate level that are fully transferable. I have nothing again against this policy of requiring on-campus experience just the need for the UCs to step it up and improve housing access and cost for all students across all of their campuses.
  16. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    You made a blanket statement and it was wrong. It's okay to admit that. The claim was whether there were take-home labs in a university system that features many Nobel laureates. HES not being part of Harvard College was never in dispute, nor was the fact that many universities require some in-person instruction.
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