UNISA Not A Real School

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Tireman 44444, Aug 16, 2012.

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  1. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Leonardo DaVinci, the Wright brothers, Charles Darwin, Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, Fredrick Douglas.

    History is full of autodidacts who changed the world. Unfortunately, credentialism has been taken as a substitute for credibility.
     
  2. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

    I have seriously thought about it ( I have to get one first...LOL). They do have them.

    Unisa Online - Clothing
     
  3. distancedoc2007

    distancedoc2007 New Member

    LOL - I already got a knitted cardigan last time I was there - very nice!
     
  4. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

    Cool. The only thing I was worried about ( and I know this is putting the cart before the horse) was where is the Academic regalia (for purchase. At my institution, we have to go to graduation. I am sure that would tick my colleague off even more when he sees that. LOL ) located? Maybe I am missing something. I was just curious as to what it looked like.
     
  5. distancedoc2007

    distancedoc2007 New Member

    Good question. I should be getting my graduation info shortly, and if there are any clues in there, I can let you know.
     
  6. OpalMoon34

    OpalMoon34 member

    I don't see the logic of this supposed impossibility if the university is located in the same area where you live and work (or somewhere near). Of course, if it is a DETC school then simply googling it will reveal that it is a DL school straightaway. It is not really about making any additional effort to "hide" it. Nothing compels you to disclose the way you obtained your degree. You just put it on your résumé and leave the rest to your prospective employer. But if they ask you how you obtained it, of course the ethical thing to do is tell the truth. Anti DL bias still exists regardless of our sentiments about it. Discrimination against degrees obtained from developing nations also exist as RFValve have said. Some of the things to cover when considering to enroll in DL includes: 1. make sure it is RA; 2. make sure that the program is also accredited; and 3. make sure that the university is in the same country where you are and, if possible, from the same state or even the same area where you live and work.

    4 or 5 people from UNISA who managed to do well as professors in the US is not enough proof of the acceptability of the degree. Other elements in their résumé could have been the deciding factor, and their master's degree could have been enough. Just look at the credentials of this lady http://troy.troy.edu/nursing/pdf/profiles/St-Onge-Judith.pdf for example. Take away the UNISA PhD and she is still five star. Actually, her UNISA Ph.D. was obtained in 1988, I don't think she got it by DL, she could have been assigned there at one point and studied there.
     
  7. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

    OpalMoon34,

    In my field, ( and I could be wrong), it is about publishing. Either you graduated from Princeton (Number one in history) or the University of North Dakota ( last in history), it is how you have taught and published. Simple as that. It works that way for UNISA, Oxford, Cambridge and the University of Cape Town. History ( PhD wise) online in the United States is still not available. So to answer your questions: ( there are two schools, Sam Houston State University and APUS that have shown interest in such. I know that SHSU has one ready to roll out, but the THECB will not let them)

    Some of the things to cover when considering to enroll in DL includes:

    1. make sure it is RA;

    I did and it is. I checked with our accreditation guru. He stated, yes it is ( the equivalent thereof...SAQA)


    2. make sure that the program is also accredited;


    Yes it is


    3. make sure that the university is in the same country where you are

    With my degree being ( or will be) from an accredited institution, does not matter. Oxford. Cambridge. My history professor (Robert Pfaff) from UNC ( I was a summer Tar Heel in 1992) taught Western Civilization I. His D.Phil is from Oxford. That is a moot point. Sorry to disagree. Great professor. Had a chalk belt. So cool.


    Richard Pfaff


    4. from the same state or even the same area where you live and work.

    Again, moot point. I know folks that live in Houston, travel to Dallas and attend TCU and SMU for their PhD work in history. It is your choice. What is best for you. Some folks do not have the time nor the resources to either A) go to school at Rice ( the courses are ALL during the day and morning) or B) go to UH ( they courses are mostly at night) or C) the finances ( Rice is a bugger to get in and cost close to 2K per course. UH is close to 1300K per course). Once size does not fit all. Again, no disrespect.
     
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  8. suelaine

    suelaine Member

    I did more than half of my BS degree by some form of DL, and graduated in 1994, so it was not considered "online" nor did I or most people I know have Internet access at that time.

    I earned my Masters in the early 2000s from a college that is also a B&M college, but not in the same state where I live. The only time I actually went to that college in Detroit, MI was for my graduation, which of course was not required but I did enjoy going to it.

    Though there were a few "online" programs out there then in the late 90s when I started my Master's, but there were none that I could find that suited my needs so I did this "external" program. Though I met with a small study group regularly, all my work was "snail mailed" to my professors and I never met any of them in person.

    I earned my Ph.D. online from NCU in 2010. In any interview I have ever been to in my life, I have never been asked whether my degrees were DL.

    I assume it is quite possible that those who interviewed me at the two interviews I had after getting the Ph.D. were aware this was a DL degree but they never asked me about it. If they did, I surely would not try to hide it. But to me, if it is a non-issue to interviewers, then it is a non-issue to me and I did not need to bring it up. (Both offered me a job, and I took one of those jobs as an assistant professor at a local B&M state university). They did ask me about the research I did for my dissertation, but did not ask about the University itself, nor did they question whether my BS and MAT degrees were distance learning.
     
  9. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Actually, they were from Dayton, Ohio.
     
  10. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    1300K per course?
     
  11. mbaonline

    mbaonline New Member

    Here you go!

    I found this: Unisa Online - Academic dress
    "The gown for all Bachelors', Honours Bachelors' and Masters' degrees of the University shall be black and of the same pattern as that of the Master of Arts of the University of Oxford or Cambridge.

    The gown for all doctors' degrees shall be cardinal red with open sleeves lined in cardinal red.

    The academic cap for all doctors' degrees shall be cardinal red with a tassel in the colour of the college concerned.

    For all other degrees the academic cap shall be black with a black tassel."

    From the photos, it looks like the gowns are open in the front a la Oxbridge.

    Here's their official supplier Dippenaar & Reinecke: https://www.d-r.co.za/
     
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  12. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

    Yes. After fees and such are added in, yes. For doctoral classes, yes.
     
  13. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

    Thank you so much. It is still some time before I wear one of those...:) They do look nice though.
     
  14. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    What a sad story. Your colleague obviously has some deep emotional problems. Anyone who would be so unprofessional and seek esteem by a lame attempt to disparage others could likely benefit from professional help.
     
  15. mbaonline

    mbaonline New Member

    Tireman 44444 - Kudos to you, though - at least you're working on yours. I'm still "thinking" about it.

    Distancedoc2007 - are you going to participate in Commencement?
     
  16. OpalMoon34

    OpalMoon34 member

    Yeah, but he did not obtain his degrees by way of DL. So, I don't know why you even mentioned this.:disappointed:
     
  17. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

  18. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

    Because you stated ( and I am not argue with you on this)

    Make sure that the university is in the same country where you are. That is a moot point. You can be in the United States and study elsewhere. You did not state anything about DL
     
  19. Hadashi no Gen

    Hadashi no Gen New Member

    For whatever reason I didn't see any photos at the links listed... but here is the first thing that showed up on Google.

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  20. bassethorn

    bassethorn New Member

    Nice picture.
     

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