UCF Professor Busts Students For Cheating

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Tireman 44444, Nov 10, 2010.

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  1. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    That will only happen when the direct correlation between "high-paying job" and "college" is disavowed by the media. While it's true that many high-paying jobs require a good education, a good education does not automatically translate into a job.

    The only true statement that can be made is "Academia is made to create academics." The current "go to college to get a good job" mantra is broken, but as long as it's believed you're always going to have some segment of the college student demograph unable to hack things with appropriate morality.
     
  2. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    It's a self-fulfilling prophesy of the purest sort.
     
  3. Delta

    Delta Active Member

    Once upon a time, I gave my students an open book multiple choice exam through distant learning "University level". Somehow a student was smart enough to design a computer program that took the exam a couple hundred times until all the correct answers were achieved. I never conceived a rule for such a scenerio but certainly "cheating" in my book.
     
  4. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    From my interactions with a lot of recent college grads and college-aged people across a pretty broad spectrum of education, background, and interests, I think the attitude that "everybody cheats" is surprisingly prevalent, and that's pretty scary. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if 90+% of the so-called "best and brightest" working at Goldman-Sachs and similar firms hold that viewpoint (and, in fact, got their degrees describing them as "best and brightest" by cheating the most.) I've had similar conversations with professors, some of whom have told me that, even if half the class is caught plagiarizing or cheating, they are not allowed to fail more than 5 students in any one class.

    I agree with the professor quoted in the article when he talks about college as a place to teach the sort of values that would reject cheating, and yet I feel like it is, at least to some extent, a losing battle, because there seems to be little education to that effect happening in the homes of many children today, and it's near impossible to undo 18 years worth of life experience devoid of any lessons in ethics with a handful of college classes.

    It doesn't bode well for the future of this country.
     
  5. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    How can we expect people to be ethical when we don't have a consistent ethical standard? If the only source of ethics is social consensus and cultural approval, what happens when we accept cheating and lying as a society?

    Those with ethical systems grounded in stronger belief systems (not necessarily religious, though they can be) can resist this tide, but if you hold to a subjective ethical perspective, why would you want to avoid the easy way out?
     
  6. Chebasaz

    Chebasaz New Member

    It seems Mr. Ravvin has had to pull all mention of himself off the internet. Even his Youtube channel is no longer found. I did find this however:

    Konstaantin Ravvin - LinkedIn

    It seems that someone else out there is interested in keeping the story alive.
     
  7. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    Here's a link to the actual lecture the professor gave, ripping his class a new one about the cheating scandal. Apparently it was a business capstone class. Why am I not surprised.

    Apparently more than 200 students turned themselves in.
     
  8. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    UCF's head football coach is George O' Leary.

    George O'Leary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  9. obecve

    obecve New Member

    kick them all out!!! or make them retake the class.
     

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